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Frustrating Mortgage Rates Environment. Discussing "No Points" Loan

by Victor Burek -
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The theme of the week continues. Mortgage rates move down, then move up, then down, then up again! Are you pulling your hair out?

Mortgage backed securities were again unable to hold onto early morning gains following a less than expected read on Durable Goods orders.   A very disappointing Treasury auction is to blame for the turnaround which moved MBS much lower on the day and sparked reprices for the worse from most lenders; however, by day’s end MBS managed to crawl their way back to the same level at which they opened.  This late day rebound allowed some lenders to reprice for the better bringing rates back to opening morning levels.    As a reminder, today is day one of the new Truth in Lending Amendment that I wrote about on Tuesday. Although parts of this amendment are beneficial, it will add delays to the closing process.   Make sure you account for these delays by locking your loan in for an adequate amount of time. 

We had only one relevant piece of economic data to digest today, Weekly Jobless Claims from the U.S. Department of Labor.  This data set totals the number of Americans that filed for first time unemployment claims for the prior week. The report indicated that jobless claims rose last week from a revised reading of 559,000 to 584,000, which is basically in line with economists’ expectations. Continuing claims, which tracks the number of Americans that continue to file due to an inability to finding a new job, improved again for the third week in a row moving lower by 54,000 to 6.197million.  This is the lowest level since April 11th of this year. READ MORE

At 1pm eastern, the Department of Treasury will hold its final auction of the week with $28billion of 7 year notes going on the auction block.  Since the supply is known in advance, the most important aspect will be the demand by market participants for our country’s debt.  A successful auction has a high bid to cover ratio and strong demand from foreign investors.  The prior two auctions this week were rather disappointing with much lower indirect demand than prior auctions.  These poor results caused an immediate move lower in MBS resulting in reprices for the worse from most lenders.  Matt and AQ will cover this topic in detail on the MBS Commentary blog.

I received an email from a blog reader yesterday asking me why they have to pay closing costs such as title insurance, escrow fee, underwriting fee, etc… even though they were going through their current lender.  Their thought was since they already have the loan why do they need to be charged these fees again.  The reason for this is that more than likely whoever you are making your mortgage payment to does not own your mortgage.  They are the servicer of your mortgage meaning they send you the bill, collect your money, manage your escrow account and update the credit agencies.  When they receive your monthly payment, they cash your check and forward your money to the end investor that actually owns your mortgage.  They do keep a small portion to cover their expenses and make a profit for servicing the loan.  So even though you might be going through your current lender, you will have to pay these fees again because you are basically doing a new loan.

If you do not want to pay these fees, you can elect to do a no cost loan.  A no cost loan does not mean that there are no costs, rather it means the lender you are doing the loan with is paying them for you.  How they do this and still make a profit is by premium pricing which means they are giving you a higher than par rate.   A par rate means that the lender is not be paid on the back side to do your loan, so that is why when I quote a par rate I state that you must pay all costs including one point loan origination/discount/broker fee.   If you are keeping your home short term it would be better to pay less costs and secure a higher interest rate.   If the par rate is 5.00%, as a consumer you can elect to take a higher rate and with the money your lender is being paid for giving you a higher than par rate they can pay your fees for you and still make a profit.   Generally speaking you should expect a rate anywhere from .50% to 1.0% higher for a no cost loan.

HERE is a great mortgage calculator to help you determine if you should pay points or not

Early reports from fellow mortgage professionals are indicating that the par 30 year conventional rate mortgage is in the 5.00% to 5.25% range for the best qualified consumers.  In order to qualify you must have a FICO credit score of 740 or higher, a loan to value at 80% or less and pay all closing costs including one point loan origination/discount/broker fee.   As always, you can elect to pay less in fees and take a higher interest rate.  I recommend to my clients if they are keeping their home for more than 3 years to pay all the costs to secure the best rate which over time will save them much more in interest than the upfront costs.


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I was fortunate enough to work with a great team at www.MortgageRefinancing.com when I did my refinance. What they did for me was they got my loan approved and then strategically locked my loan when rates were down. This was great and I got an amazing interest rate on my mortgage. I think the main thing is you need to find someone who can help you navigate the market.
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Great point Kelly. It pays to find a professional help you vs trying to find the cheapest person to help. MBS on a little rally following a decent auction. For complete coverage check out Matt and AQ on the mbs commentary. AQ went out on a limb and predicted a good auction. He and Matt know what they are talking about.
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People really need to take a stand. Check out this mortgage assistance program at http://accuriz.com/docs/Real%20Estate%20Report/Mortgage%20Assistance%20Program.pdf The plan has its flaws, but it only takes one idea to spark a change.
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Very good idea pertaining to link Kenneth provided! We've waited long enough for consumers to get the help they need to stay in their homes and unfortunatley the banks aren't providing feasible solutions to all of their delinquint accounts.
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Kenneth, thanks for the info.
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Kelly, How was your experience with www.MortgageRefinancing.com . I need to refin my condo. Are these guys reasonable and have low costs. Thanks
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Kaka, if you like you can send me an email to vburek@866whyross.com and i can refer you to a professional that can assist you. I only do Texas loans but many readers email me asking for a referal to a loan officer in their state. I feel it is very important to work with a loan officer in the state you reside.
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Opinion please: In WA am looking at a refi. $1M value in home, 506K loan being sought. High credit score. Am being quoted 5.125 with no points but a 995.00 lender fee and stds closing costs approx 2700.00 My other option is pay 1/4 pts plus 995 fee to get a rate of 5%. Are either a good deal? is one better than the other? Home is 8 months old, just built and will likely stay for more than 5 years.
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Rich, i would say the 5%with 1/4 pt is better, here is why. keep in mind this is just using simple math and a quick analysis. For ease of math, lets assume loan amount is 500k, 1/4 point would cost you 1250 but you would save .125 in interest per year. .125 on 500k saves you 725 per year in interest. So, would you pay 1250 to save 725 each year you keep this mortgage. You would have a break even point of well under 2 years, so if you are keeping home more than 2 years makes sense to pay higher fees and get a lower rate.