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MBS CLOSE: Weakness persists through the close, but does it matter?

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It's Friday after a Thursday New Years and as one might imagine, the parking spaces on Wall St. today are surprisingly available as they've been for the past few weeks.  Monday will put an end to that and to the volatility we've been experiencing recently.  Remember when volume is low that the sentiments of the few have an uncommonly dramatic impact on prices.  Even then, we are a mere quarter of a point off today on 4.5's and not even an eighth of a point off on 5.0's.  These are the kinds of movements we're used to seeing on a daily basis and not at all the kind of thing that should cause mid to longer term deals any panic.  So even though MBS are pushing the lows of the day and additional reprices for the worse are possible, there are other considerations.

Here's where we stand today, with Wednesday as a reference:

The lowest price levels acheived of 101-02 on 4.5's don't even come close to the lows we've seen over the past 2 weeks.  Plus, even if we hold these week levels, when the roll takes place on the 13th, lenders will once again have funding lines freed up for more activity and the spreads between primary and secondary rates can tighten a bit.  Combine that with abyssmally awful selling in treasuries and we are still in good shape despite the red.  Oh yeah, there's that whole $500 bln of fed purchasing beginning some time in the next two weeks.  When a buyer of size commits to fund a year's worth of bid demand, that tends to help things just a bit, or more appropriately it will help things when the money starts to flow.  For these and other reasons, those with a reasonable time horizon will likely still benefit from floating. 

Can't take the heat?  By all means, get out of the kitchen.  The moral of the story is that you'd be making a decision based on very low volume at one of the most unsupportive times of the year AND during a treasury sell-off.  Your decision would make more sense if it were tempered with the knowledge of market sentiment that will come on Monday.  Furthermore, if you deals are truly short term enough to be concerned, there have been better opportunities to lock earlier last week ahead of bigger losses.  Facing a comparitively thin loss ahead of indications of more support doesn't seem to make that much sense, even though seeing red on the screen is never confidence inspiring.  Still, something would seem wrong if the 10 year could be down an impressive 49 ticks as it is today and not have MBS down at least a little.  So, as I see it, all is still as it should be.  The question of better rates is not "if," but "when," and that "when" should be some time over the next few weeks.

As always, evaluate your lock/float decisions based on your position.  If you have everything floating, you are too open to risk.  Rate movements are never guaranteed so your personal lock/float decisions will always depend on your personal position.  This is why we do not answer the "should I lock or float?" questions.  It always depends.  If, for instance, you only have one viable deal with which to concern yourself over the next few weeks either because you're a consumer or a loan officer with no pipeline, you are 100% at risk if you float and therefore, locking should be considered much more seriously.  If, on the other hand, you have a majority of refis (as most do) and you are locking the most sensitive ones by way of hedging part of your pipeline, then you can still take major advantage of the positive rate movements that, by all indications, SHOULD be on their way.  In this "hedging" example, you give up some gains in exchange for reducing risk.  That's the name of the game.  Treat a pipeline like a portfolio.  We'd never advocate making the same decision every time on every deal.  Use this blog as your baseline information.  Mix in your own experience and circumstances, and make your own decisions.  Many of you won't be able to stomach a float over the next few weeks.  Those that do will probably be rewarded.  If that "probably" changes on Monday, we'll be the first to let you know.  Until then, today's losses are the cost of admission to the float club.  Stay strong.

 

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on
Great post!~ Thanks & have a good weekend!~
on
Great post, but are you saying that if we need to lock BEFORE the 13th, then the sooner the better? I assume your guess is that rates will get progressively worse until then?
on
Scott, I think the advice was that you should float into at least Monday if you have the stomach for a bit of risk. Today's fluctuations were based on very thin trading volume, since most traders are still on vacation, and thus should be taken with a grain of salt. If the weakness persists into Monday, then it's time to reconsider. At least, that's how I interpreted what Matt wrote.
on
Matt - If you could answer every rate and float question you would be one heck of a day trader! I like your analogy to risk management...... Rate just can not get better ever day or they would be at zero! Happy New Year
on
I have several Streamlines to put in but with today reprices for the worse I have to wait a bit. I think another week or so I might have another opportunity to do it.
on
Thanks for the clarification. I've just been losing a little sleep waiting for the the Fed purchasing to begin. I've got a few more days to lock, so guess I'll ride it out and hope for the best!
on
What is happening on the 13th? Why will it affect mortgage rate? THANKS
on
Austen Consult the MBS Basics for a more detailed explanation but to keep it as simple as possible, Lenders will have more capacity to take on more loans, which ultimately means that the rates lenders offer will be closer to what the market dictates because they won't build so much profit into the rates they are offering currently. For example, most lenders are pricing 30 year fixed rates around 5.0% when they should be pricing around 4.5% depending on how aggressive they want to be.
on
I'm lining up refi's that don't have to close on any time table. I am taking apps collecting docs and sumbitting to underwriting. I trying to beat the next inevitable tidal wave if/when rates hit 4.5%. If I have loans in clear to close status, I can pull the trigger at any time with a short term lock. This way I can take advantage of the better pricing and send my clients right to closing instead of starting the process that will likely take 45+ days.
on
People are saying that 4.5% is going to hit. The thing is when? Are people going to miss out on getting a 4.75% because we are expecting a better rate? Don't get me wrong, I want the rate to be there but people need to understand that 5.00% is an awesome rate. This year is going to be a profitable year for many of us. I have acquired 23 loans this month. 12 locked and will fund this next week. Be smart - keep up the good and honest work everyone!
on
dmoises, from a technical standpoint, 4.5% is already here. It's not getting passed on by the lenders yet for several important reasons. This is likely going to change around mid-month. I'm in the camp that firmly believes 4.5% is coming without costing an arm or a leg. There is little risk is holding out for a while. We can "settle" for 4.75% later on if necessary.
on
Yes, I agree that 4.5% should of been here all last week. All, I am saying is that if it does not come don't miss out on the 4.75% and later on regret not locking because that wave did not come.
on
I just submitted my application to Pentagon Federal for a 15-year conforming mortgage to refinance my first and home equity loans. I could have locked at 4.625/0 points, but decided to float. If 30 years are expected to drop to 4.5, is it not reasonable to expect 15 years to drop to 4.25, and perhaps lower?
on
great read..., great way to brace for the new year!