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Federal Reserve MBS Purchase Program

MBS AFTERNOON: Example of MBS Performance vs. Benchmark

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Heading into the 5pm  "IM TOO TIRED TO MAKE UP A FUNNY SAYING"  marking period, the FN 4.0 is +0-09 at 98-14 yielding 4.1619% and the FN 4.5 is trading +0-04 at 100-30 yielding 4.387%. The secondary market current coupon is 4.3082%.

The purpose of the charts below is to assist in the process of clarifying the concept of yield spreads and relative value. We've frequently discussed the  relative performance of rate sheet influential MBS coupons vs. the performance of their benchmarks.

Terms used often to describe relative value: yield spreads are wider, yield spreads are tighter, MBS are being outperformed by benchmark big brothers, gapped out, wider, tighter, flat, basis, hedge ratio, duration, convexity etc, etc. Up to this point we havent gotten too deep into durations, convexity, hedge ratios, and other more complex topics pertinent to trading bonds with embedded call options (dont call me for three months!!!...corny call trader joke) as most readers are more concerned with lender pricing strategies vs. gaining a deeper understanding of the process used to determine the present value of future mortgage cash flow (sometimes we get a little ahead of ourselves perhaps?). However we believe having a basic understanding of relative value can be useful in gauging the market's demand for "rate sheet influential"  MBS coupons.

Note: this example is not to make an assessment of relative value, it is purely to help further understand the concept of yield spread.

The first example takes place when rates are rising.

1. When MBS prices rise, MBS yields fall. Looking at both the 10yr TSY chart below and the FN 4.5 MBS chart above, you can see the inverse relationship between bond prices and bond yields. When 10yr TSY yields are falling, MBS prices are rising.

2. This morning when the 10yr TSY yield rose from 3.313% to 3.352%, the price of the FN 4.5 fell from 101-04 to 100-26.

3. As you can see from the above chart, when MBS prices fell, the FN 4.5's yield rose 0.0388% from 4.3637% to 4.4025%.

4. However when the sell off occurred the 10yr yield rose 0.039% from 3.313% to 3.352%.

5. Before the sell off the FN 4.5 yield was 105.07bps higher than the 10yr TSY yield. After the selloff the FN 4.5 yield was 105.05bps higher than the 10yr TSY yield. So the FN 4.5 outperformed the 10yr TSY note.

The second example takes occurred when rates were falling.

1. This afternoon when the 10yr TSY yield fell from 3.339% to 3.317%, FN 4.5 prices rose from 100-28 to 101-02.

2. As you can see from the chart above when MBS prices rose, the FN 4.5 yield fell 0.0233% from 4.3947% to 4.3714%.

3. However when the rally occurred, the 10yr yield fell 0.022%.

4. Before the rally the FN 4.5 yield was 105.57 basis points higher than the 10yr TSY yield. After the rally the FN 4.5 yield was 105.44bps higher than the 10yr TSY yield. So again we would say that the FN 4.5 outperformed the UST10YR note. Yield spreads were tighter.

Again...this is just an example of how MBS prices compare to returns of their benchmarks. I keep telling this because the FN 4.5 is actually wider vs. the 10yr compared to yesterday so I feel like I picked a bad example. WHOMP WHOMP  More discussion on this later though....

MBS, TSY, LIBOR QUOTES

 

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if you want to know what I think about lock vs. float. check out the comment I put on Vic's blog. There is some room for rates to rally a little further, but 3.27% on the 10yr and 101-00 on the FN 4.5 have been firm resistance for us. That said it would appear that the recent rates rally is losing steam. Do you think lenders have any room to cushion rate sheets from falling MBS prices? Do you think lenders will be willing to cushion pricing from rising rates?
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Have not had a chance to go over previous posts, so if this has been addressed already.....just ignore: We all know the Fed is leaving us in March, and now PIMCO and others are leaving to....not suprised (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/pimcos-gross-unwinds-mortgage-positions-2009-10-20). With everyone leaving, who is going to buy? Or how high will rates have to go to at least attrack PIMCO and others back in? Or will the Fed be forced to buy more and extend this program out another year? So many questions.....
on
edgar this is ongoing issue...who will be liquidity provider for mortgage banks looking to hedge interest rate risk? One question many keep forgetting to ask is...HOW MUCH SUPPLY NEEDS TO BE OFFSET WITH DEMAND? The MBA already said they believe loan production will fall off in 2010, we agree, loan supply will fall in the year ahead. When the Fed's funding runs out, assuming the program doesnt get re-funded, many factors will affect the supply/demand equation including the shape of the yield curve and the fate of the GSEs. The industry needs a plan to restore the public's/private investor's/global investor's confidence in the GSEs or whatever replaces them. Without confidence, funding will have to come from the government. Without confidence in the secondary mortgage market, mortgage rates will rise and supply will be even less than anticipated. There is no answer to this problem yet...we need one...and soon.
on
man, this could spiral out of control pretty quickly...
on
sounds like Pimco ALREADY sold most of their MBS holdings...
on
Thought the current and ongoing Fed/Govt market manipulations were suppose to help in the confidence arena? Seems like last few T auctions received some pretty decent indirect bidding...
on
because they are buying their own T bills...
on
or because investors are selling their MBS to the FED and buying T-bills etc instead...OK, we will exchange a MBS worth...maybe nothing for a T-bill worth...more than that...OH, with money we borrowed from you at .25%...it's a win win. is this for real?
on

but what happens to confidence when the Fed exits the MBS market? who will fill the role of liquidity provider? the role fn/fre used to play.the role the fed is playing.will the fed have to create a liquidity backstop/swap window for "agency" mortgage loans?

on
Foreign governments will fill the role of liquidity provider, albeit at rates double - then triple - from where they are today. Exactly why QE is a bad policy (too much govt. influence distorts reality and creates multitudes of unintended consequences: i.e. hvcc, fannie, freddie, subprime, mdia, fha, va, cars for clunkers, tarp, stimulus, etc. etc.). This "industry" is going to unravel soon and in a big way; what was once a decent career is circling the drain thanks to overreaching govt. intrusion. Soon, the consumers sources for financing will be severely limited, and the product choices will be even less. Just like going to the ice cream store and being told they only serve vanilla; chocolate (ARMs, I/O, Option ARMS) were a thing of the past.
on
While Brian may be right that at some point in the not too distant future foreign buyers, and all buyers for that matter, will demand higher yields, I think he is off on the doomsday scenario. I am pretty sure that loaning money to idiots caused this problem and now that that has largely stopped (evidenced by my daily interaction with the Nazi's...uh I mean u/w) we should see some confidence in the ability of MBS and other asset backed securities to perform in the future. In addition, government involvement is never the best answer, but I think one could make the argument that a lack of government regulation in the mortgage market got us here. Does anybody think that if lenders really cared whether loans were repaid that we would have had option ARMS and 90% Cash-Out with a 520 and unlimited 30's in the first place...I think not. They call that good old fashioned greed!
on
Jason; you are wrong on so many of your comments I don't even know where to begin. Good luck having uncle sam as the majority owner of your forced partnership - I'm sure he has your best interest at heart.
on
Bryan, I guess I will just resign tomorrow and wait for the world to collapse. Or maybe I should attend to the same 3-5 million dollar pipeline I have had for the last two years. I guess when things are going well you learn to look on the bright side! By the way...when Novastar, CIT, Argent, and whatever other one of a million subprime AE's were knocking on my door begging me to orginate 100% Stated loans for people that I wouldn't lend 10 bucks for lunch...I guess that was the government's fault, right? My favorite was the teacher and a cop making $80,000 between them that wanted to buy the $600,000 home on an option arm. Don't get me wrong, I closed more than I can count. I just think a little foresight somewhere along the line could have guessed that wasn't a good idea. With the bond ratings agencies asleep at the switch we had nobody. I hope things turn around for you, maybe you should consider a career in politics when the meltdown hits!
on
Again, wrong on every account Jason (especially as it pertains to your assumptions about me, of which I made none about you) but good luck attending to the same 3-5 million dollar pipeline for the last two years - maybe you should try closing some of them.
on
They weren't assumptions...again...good luck
on
Appreciate the good thoughts; I hope you get all the govt. regulation you hope for as well!