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How many of your lenders have already announced plans to offer DU REFI PLUS ?
DU Refi Plus
As we are supposed to be able to send them in - only in a few days now - it would be nice to know which lenders ARE going to be putting them on the rate sheets! Please post in a prominent place on the site!!
I'm a correspondent lender and we have no information just yet. I also have wholesale relationships as well and haven't had any formal information yet. I'm also waiting on the Fannie Conf Agency loan limits to go back to 2008 levels and have no sense when that will happen either. Clients are getting frustrated waiting for these answers.
Two of my most active lenders told me a week ago they had no plans to offer this since the loans will not be covered by MI.
I'm a broker and Wells Fargo is the only one who has said they will offer this via wholesale. Hope the other kids jump on board though, hate to think how long the turn times will be.
My wife Glenna Thompson uses Mortgage Services III inc. bloomington, Il. and her AE Linda Starks (815) 378-8393 says they are starting next week.
We received a notice that it is coming but that is all we got. No other information was available. I've already used the FNNMA web site to identify eligible properties but not one of the five were eligible. On the site it said that some loans held by other investors were eligible. How do you find out which other investors are eligible or is FANNMA and FHLMC loans the only eligible loans? If this is the case I'm not going to spend allot of time marketing it. In my area most borrowers that bought in the past 5 years are upside down with 2nds. Has anybody had any success with subordinating? If so how long did it take? How many times did you have to extend the lock? This loan looks good on paper but when you try to apply it you will find it is just like the FHA Secure that went no where. I'm focusing on purchase business not waisting my time on refis.
People's Wholesale out of AZ sent notices several weeks ago that they were already working on it. No major news revelations from the other lenders I work with however.
Mark my words, this is another dud, especially for brokers
The servicers are going to do 98% of any of these loans that DO get done. And, the FHLMC (Freddie) version is actually pretty good, the Fannie version sucks.
Hammer
Hey Hammer,
The Freddie Mac version doesn't have any upside for borrowers either. The servicer/lenders are quoting astronomical interest rates because they can only charge a maximum of $2500 total in closing costs. In most states that doesn't even cover the hard/third party costs.
I have had 19 borrowers (Freddie Mac loans) contact their servicer/lenders to get quotes based on the new guidelines. 14 of them received quotes and the lowest was 5.625% on a 30 year fixed. Furthermore, 6 of them were quoted in the 6's. 5 borrowers were informed that their lender is not going to honor the DU REFI PLUS/REFI Plus guidelines.
Based on the information I have, being only 3 days away from the implimentation of these guidelines, this program will fall flat on its ***; worse than any other program that has come around in over a year. The government needs to step in and tell the MI companies to cover the loans or be forced out of the business by the government creating their own MI entity. If the government does step in and create a SUDO MI company for these guidelines, the other MI companies will have to follow suit or risk loosing huge market share and profit loss.
Hope things change soon
Govt sponsored MI? I think that's a great idea.
Gov't sponsored MI................Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Wait, I think I've heard of that before.
Oh yeah - they call it FHA....................
Nope. Let it be, let it be. So what if people can't refinance to the lowest rates ever because they lost value - OH WELL.
From Everbank
FNMA Refinance Plus Conforming Fixed & ARM Mortgages
FNRFP15F, FNRFP20F, FNRFP30F, FNRFP5YL, FNRFP7YL, FNRFP10Y, HBRFP15F, HBRFP30F, HBRFP5YL
Fannie Mae’s Home Affordable Refinance program provides refinance opportunities to borrowers with existing Fannie Mae loans who have demonstrated an acceptable payment history but due to declining home values have been unable to refinance to a lower payment. This program offers options to refinance into a more stable mortgage product.
Effective Monday April 6, 2009, the FNMA DU Refinance Plus will be available to all production channels as any lender may refinance the existing mortgage without being the current mortgage servicer. This is the first of subsequent phases based on additional MI partner participation. Key benefits of the April version will allow current FNMA uninsured MI loans which will now exceed an 80% LTV to refinance without new MI up to the maximum LTV/CLTV/HCLTV as outlined in the lending grid.
Highlights of this initial product offering include the following:
Fixed Rate: FNRFP15F, FNRFP20F, FNRFP30F
ARM: FNRFP5YL, FNRFP7YL, FNRFP10Y
HIGH BALANCE LOAN AMOUNTS
Fixed Rate: HBRFP15F, HBRFP30F
ARM: HBRFP5YL
Fixed Rate: 120, 180, 240, 300, 360
ARM: 180 or 360months
High Balance
Fixed Rate: 180 & 360 months only
ARM: 360 months only
Caps: 5/1, 7/1 and 10/1: 5/2/5
Margin: 2.25%
Index: Average of the interbank offered rates for (1) year US dollar deposits in the London market, as published in the Wall Street Journal.
EXPANDED ELIGIBILITY
For all other transactions, the current FNMA DU maximum allowable LTV/CLTV/HCLTV will apply. See lending grids at end of this program description.
2 Units: $533,850 2 Units: $800,775
3 Units: $645,300 3 Units: $967,950
4 Units: $801,950 4 Units: $1,202,925
These amounts are the maximum loan amounts that may apply in high-cost areas; the limit may be lower for a specific high-cost area.
High-Cost areas and maximum loan amounts can be found at the end of this program description.
In all cases, the qualifying payment should be reflected in the housing and debt ratios and noted as such on the Transmittal Summary (Form 1008).
LTV: Obtained by dividing the first lien amount by the value
CLTV: Obtained by dividing the first lien amount and the disbursed amount of the HELOC & any other secondary financing by value.
HCLTV: Obtained by dividing the first lien amount and the total HELOC credit line limit & any other secondary financing by the value.
*All CLTV limits must be satisfied first in order to be eligible for HCLTV limits. *
In addition to this DU message, all loan files not currently serviced by EverBank will require a copy of the existing mortgage monthly statement to confirm no MI currently is in force. Loans currently being serviced by EverBank will need to confirm that no mortgage insurance is in place on the existing loan via MSP. (MIP - Screen to confirm MI Code of 13)
If the original LTV on the existing FNMA loan was > 80.00% and DU does not issue the message above, the loan is ineligible for a DU Refi Plus and the borrower should be offered a different loan transaction.
Existing FNMA-owned loans that currently have Lender Paid MI are NOT eligible for DU Refi Plus. They will never receive a message offering a DU Refi Plus transaction.
All DU Refi Plus loans greater than 80.01% without MI will require a new MI code of 95 at time of Loan Delivery. (See end of PDS)
Certain DU Refi Plus loans will waive the requirement for an appraisal or exterior-only property inspection. For those specific DU Refi Plus loans, the DU Finding Report will issue two property fieldwork recommendation messages:
Property Fieldwork Waiver : AND
If a loan is ineligible for PFW and DU does not offer the Property Fieldwork Waiver, a message will be issued indicating the minimum level of property fieldwork required.
The DU Property Fieldwork Waiver will not be offered in the following scenarios:
The Property Fieldwork Waiver offered by DU is only valid if offered on the final DU submission. Any subsequent submissions to DU where the Property Fieldwork Waiver is not offered invalidates the option to use the PFW and the minimum level of property fieldwork must be used.
To identify the loan is exercising this option the underwriter should select the PIW flag in the front-end system. All Property Fieldwork Waivers will require the SFC Code of 807 at Loan Delivery and a fee of $75.00.
An EverBank Borrower DU Refi Plus Affidavit Form has been created. This will be part of the application package and can be signed prior to closing OR the Underwriter should place an At Closing UW condition in order to get this signed as part of the closing package.
EverBank must only confirm the property is not a CondoTel. (web site confirmation)
FNMA Project Type Codes are required at Loan Delivery as follows:
V - Condominiums
E - PUD’s
Underwriters will be required to place the correct Condo V Project Type on the final 1008 since LQ & WITS currently do not support this value. (Pending LOS updates)
Property Fieldwork Waiver - When offered and executed, all loans should apply and select the PIW Flag in your LOS for correct identification.
The “Representative” FICO score for all qualifying borrowers is determined as follows:
Minimum Credit Score requirements:
LTV’s < 80%: No minimum credit score required
LTV’s > 80%: 580 minimum credit score required
680 minimum credit score for High Balance ARMs
Collections/Charge-offs:
Please refer to the DU findings report for any adverse credit policy messages.
FNMA Unique Project Type Codes:
5/1, 7/1 and 10/1 ARMs: Assumable with borrower qualification and lender approval after initial fixed period.
5/1 ARM: 1 year LIBOR 51525
7/1 ARM: 1 year LIBOR 71525
10/1 ARM: 1 year LIBOR 10525
5/1 ARM: 5/1 year LIBOR NonConvrt 525 caps/MAPS
7/1 ARM: 7/1 year LIBOR NonConvrt 525 caps/MAPS
10/1 ARM: 10/1 year LIBOR NonConvrt 525 caps
5/1 ARM: Note 3528 & Rider 3187
7/1 ARM: Note 3528 & Rider 3187
10/1 ARM: Note 3528 & Rider 3187
DU ELIGIBILITY MATRICES
and Second Home
1 The minimum credit score for High-Balance ARMs > 80% LTV is 680 – no exceptions
HIGH BALANCE HIGH-COST AREA MAXIMUM LOAN AMOUNTS
Has Everbank issued any pricing for DU refiPLUS? In other words is it the same as the regular grid or is there some crazy 1.000-3.625 add on which is what Flagstar was offering with their existing FNMA Streamlined refi announced back in February.If these types of add-ons prevail, then indeed not only will the program be a dud, but it totally misses the intent of the Affordable Home Refinance objective.
Jason 'Hammer' Helmer:Gov't sponsored MI................Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Wait, I think I've heard of that before. Oh yeah - they call it FHA.................... Nope. Let it be, let it be. So what if people can't refinance to the lowest rates ever because they lost value - OH WELL.
took the words out of my mouth...good stuff...
Ex correspondent originator now working retail. You all need to prepare for the inevitable here. We get this loan tomorrow in our product guidelines. We also have been told in no uncertain terms that any broker crazy enough to think they will get someone in our port to do du refi plus will be screwed as soon as the payoff is ordered. Servicing will transfer to origination and have the loan converted to the streamline version available through the lender...no appraisal, no income docs, no asset docs....pricing off our standard sheet. Game over for wholesale and correspondent...you will be sitting out this refi wave.
I think there are provisions making that illegal for servicers to jump in front of that - I read that somewhere... will it happen? Probably - but that's OK, my clients won't mind a little paperwork, and I'll reimburse them for the appraisal - and that's the way service from a good broker beats retail....
Yes, this is what I read on Fannie's website:
In accordance with the provisions of the Selling and Servicing Guide, Part I, Section 309: Questionable Refinancing Practices, the lender may not specifically target borrowers whose mortgages are owned or securitized by Fannie Mae for a new mortgage.
Unless I'm interpreting that wrong.... sounds like we have a little protection....
dave johnson:Ex correspondent originator now working retail. You all need to prepare for the inevitable here. We get this loan tomorrow in our product guidelines. We also have been told in no uncertain terms that any broker crazy enough to think they will get someone in our port to do du refi plus will be screwed as soon as the payoff is ordered. Servicing will transfer to origination and have the loan converted to the streamline version available through the lender...no appraisal, no income docs, no asset docs....pricing off our standard sheet. Game over for wholesale and correspondent...you will be sitting out this refi wave.
And thus your processing department will see turn times skyrocket. Then I will pick up your standard refis and purchases.
Hehehe, I feel like I'm in a poker game with a guy raising every hand - so what! If I have the cards, I'll win. You seem to either be vindictive, or trying to convince yourself you made the best move by going retail. Congrats on your good choice for yourself - but know this - if I gave you the names and numbers of my clients, you'd get zero of them! None. And while Wells Fargo had been quoting people 90 days for the refis, I've been getting them done in two weeks... see, when YOUR department backs up - you have nowhere else to go...... I can just send the file to another lender....
Glad we're both where we want to be.... I won't continue this debate further....
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