Late to the party here, but today our 15 yr was at 4.25% with no points.
Pay a point and you would have 4.00%.
No fee until we order the appraisal, then you will be billed, for the appraisal only, you cancel then you can have your appraisal. Quicken is at least letting you know upfront on this deposit fee, but its still not right. Most of us can still issue what is now called an "Estimate of Costs Worksheet". It is NOT the GFE, but 'outlines' the fees and costs and will be very close to the actually GFE. The Gov just had to make it simpler for us.................not. More trees lost.......
Keep shopping Bob!
Dan