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Mortgage Rates Move Below 5%

by Victor Burek -
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Mortgage backed securities and treasuries went on quite a rally yesterday following Ben Bernanke's first day of testimony on Capitol Hill.  After opening to the downside, the fixed income sector started to gain momentum during Mr. Bernanke's testimony as he gave details on the Fed's expectations for a slow economic recovery.   Mr. Bernanke suggested the economy is bottoming out but that it will take some time before stable economic growth is achieved.  All lenders did reprice for the better with some passing along multiple price improvements as the rally continued to official close. By day's end we had several lenders offering 4.875% as the par rate for the best qualified consumers.

Like yesterday, today is very light on economic data with the only relevant data set being the Mortgage Bankers Association application index, which tracks the weekly change in mortgage applications at major lenders.  An increasing trend in purchase applications is a indicator of future economic growth since the purchase of a new home leads to many other purchases.  It also indicates that consumers are more optimistic since confidence in personal finances is a prerequisite for purchasing a new home.  The release today indicated only a slight increase in both purchase and refinance activity, signaling that the housing market is still not picking up momentum.  The purchase activity posted a modest 1.3% increase while the refinance activity moved higher by 4%.  We do get another read on housing tomorrow with the release of existing home sales.

The government has taken many steps to help the housing market but it seems consumers are still holding back.  One of the steps, which is part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, is a $8,000 tax credit for first time home buyers.  This credit expires on December 1st of this year, so to take advantage of this benefit potential homebuyers must close on a new home by that date.  For those planning to buy, the clock is ticking.  In order to qualify for this free money, you must be a first time home buyer.   If you have owned a home in the past, you can still qualify for this tax credit but you must not have owned a primary residence in the last 3 years.  If you are recently married, both spouses must not have owned a home in the last 3 years as well. There are also income limitations established to prevent wealthy Americans from taking advantage of the credit.  If you are single, your gross adjusted income cannot exceed $95,000; if married, your joint income cannot exceed $170,000.  Here is a link to the IRS Form 5405 which you will need to complete and submit with your 2009 tax returns.

No other economic data is released today but we did have some major companies report earnings.  Morgan Stanley reported a larger loss than expected, US Bancorp reported lower profits, and Wells Fargo beat estimates (but reported that bad loans had increased as borrowers struggle to keep up with payments.) On the news, stock market futures have moved lower which bodes well for the fixed income sector.  Matt and AQ will give more details on this topic in their MBS Commentary blog.

Lastly, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke will testify before the Senate Banking Committee as part of his semi-annual meeting on Capitol Hill.  Today's testimony will not have the same impact as yesterday's but anytime he speaks market participants will be listening.  He will be taking questions from Senators which can always lead to an unexpected tape bomb but he is not expected to say anything different from yesterday's testimony to the House Financial Services Committee.

Early reports from fellow mortgage professionals are indicating the par 30 year conventional rate mortgage to be in the 4.875% to 5.125% range for the best qualified consumers.  In order to qualify for a par interest rate you must have a FICO credit score of 740 or higher, a loan to value of 80% or less and pay all closing costs including 1 point loan origination/discount/broker fee. As always, you can elect to pay less in fees and take a higher interest rate.  A good rule of thumb: if you plan on keeping your home for more than three years you should pay more in costs to buy a lower interest rate.

After the big rally yesterday, please evaluate your current rate offerings and consider locking. Over the last couple months when rates moved below 5%, they did not stay there very long. We have had some nice gains over the last couple days and it might make sense to take your chips off the table and lock. So far this morning, MBS are holding at yesterday's close so you do not need to lock now but at the cut off you should reevaluate. Matt and AQ will keep you posted on the intraday movements of MBS with commentary and you can check the price of MBS by clicking on the Mortgage Rates page on Mortgage News Daily.


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Any idea if these rates will remain this low till Friday (7/24)?
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Victor, I am not sure when mortgage rates are updated on http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/mortgage_rates page. It is still showing yesterday's rates.
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Amit...check back between noon and 2:30. That's when I've noticed it seems to change.
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Ya check back in the early afternoon - thats when it is usually updated (i suppose after rate sheet have been updated/posted for the day) Nitin - For what its worth -seems like rates the past few months have always went up late Thursday and most definitely on Fridays.... Just like gas prices...ha
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bassmasternick, Is there a preferred day to get low interest rate ... like Wednesday? I thought the rate should be low on Fridays as lenders will have less applications to deal with. I figured applications may pileup during the weekends and most people apply on Mondays. Is this incorrect assumption?
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Nitin, hard to say. We get a treasury announcement tomorrow regarding the amount of treasuries to be auctioned next week and that event is usually not friendly to us. Is there a reason you ask til Friday? Also, Friday's are generally not a good day for mbs. Amit, we will look into that.
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Victor, My closing date is 9/21. I am getting a 60 day lock option from TD banknorth. That means the soonest I can lock my rates will be Friday 7/24. Today's rate (5.125% with no points) is too tempting and I guess I don't want to take the risk of waiting till next week/month and see interest rates go up.
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nothing wrong with locking at 5.125%. Historically speaking that is a awesome rate. Locking takes away all risk and you might sleep better.
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Sleeping better at night is all I am asking for these days : ) I am in escrow.....inspection: done......appraisal: today. I am trying to lock-in my interest rate but my mortgage broker said that there is no hurry (?) and locking-in for a 30 day period would cost me $$$. As far a I know most lenders won't charge you a dime to lock-in for a regular 30 day period. As of today I would get about 5% with 1 point (FHA).......but she has not put that in writing yet. Suggestions? Comments?
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Marco, charging a fee to lock for 30 days? You could get a new loan officer. If you want to lock, i would suggest that you contact this LO, demand that she lock and send you confirmation. If not pull your loan.
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You guys are awesome. No nonsense and highly sophisticated analysis still simplified for an average person. Great job. I have been following this site for past one month. I just locked in 5% FHA with 0.875 discount points on 30 days lock term.
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id be happy with that...
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Marco, Victor is spot on. Your LO may be holding off in order to get some more YSP(it has to be disclosed). Force her hand.
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5% FHA with 0.875 discount points......that is music to my ears! Thank you all for your quick reply and suggestions. I have already paid for the appraisal, but I guess that if is worse comes to worse losing $450 in one day is better that losing thousands over a 30-year period. Michael.....sorry for my ignorance on this matter......but what does YSP mean? Thanks!
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Victor - I am conflicted about locking in a rate today, Pentagon Federal has their 30 year fixed jumbo at 5.375% which is great except last week it was 5.125% and 5.25% which is making me hesititate. Do you see the rates ticking down a bit in the next 30 days, we close on Aug 24. Thanks
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What is the average rate for 30 yr fixed today? Couldn't find an efficient data for some reason.
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YSP is Yield Spread Premium. It's basically the compensation(from the lender) outside of the origination the broker is charging you. If you look on your original Good Faith Estimate, the potential YSP will be shown as a % of the loan amount in the 800's section. 5% w/ 1 pt. origination is a good deal. You should get that locked in.
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Veronica, jumbo rates are a different beast, so even harder to say. Ask yourself this, what would bother or hurt you more, locking now and rates improve or floating and rates move higher. We have had some nice improvement over the last few days, so it is wise to lock in the gains. Cindy, a conventional loan assuming 740 scores and paying costs and 1 point should get you 4.875%. Thanks for the help Michael.
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No problem. You do a great job here.
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I'm offered 5.375 with no points for an FHA 30-year fixed. We close mid-Aug. Lock or float?
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Can someone explain to me how you are offering rates at 5% at par I am still at 5.5% par for Govt, and 5.625% for conv! why would my rates be so far off - is my pricing dept ripping me off!?
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Hoping to purchase a home within the next 60 days. Can I lock a rate NOW without being in contract yet?
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Thanks Michael. KA, if you are a risk taker float, if you are conservative lock. Nathan, I have many lenders offering 4.875% par today, government about 5.25, so you might be getting padded rates. Frank, a few lenders allow you to lock without a property address but many require that you have a property already selected. If you are wanting to lock without an address, make sure the LO you use has access to lenders that dont require a property address. Also, you cant just make one up as the lock will be tied to that property. thanks to everyone for reading and commenting.
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I'm risk-neutral. Only care about likelihood of rates going up or down. I supposed that means I'm a risk taker, and greedy, too. I want 5.25.
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Nathan, your rates are juiced. Look @ current coupons for the 30 year GNMA on the MBS Quotes page. A couple of my lenders are over 2 YSP @ 5.5% for FHA. Frank, how would you know how much $$ to lock the loan for if you do not have a contract. Locking a loan is serious business. If a broker/LO has too many locked loans that do not close for any reason, they can/will lose the ability to submit new files to a lender. Beyond that, there are so many things that can go wrong outside of the financing arena these days. Title issues, home inspections, etc.
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Frank, I agree with Michael C., I wouldn't be willing to lock in a rate until someone had a purchase agreement. None of my lenders will even allow us to lock in until we have a property selected, so if the property changes than we lose the lock.
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Thank you all for your comments. I am so glad I subscribed to this blog : ) I just had another conversation w/ my broker. She advised me to wait for the appraisal to come in before locking in the rate. According to her if the house I am trying to buy does not appraise then I would have to renegotiate the purchasing price with the bank (this is an REO) and I might not be able to close w/in 30 days. If that happens, I would have to pay an additional 1/2 point (more or less) to extend the terms of my loans or, at worse, I would have to renegotiate a new deal with the lender. Her game plan is.....wait until the appraisal is done (later this week) and then lock-in the rate (sometimes next week). Does it sound reasonable?
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Victor, when you say that many lenders are offering government @ 5.25 does that include VA? My LO is still offering 5.38 on a VA loan today and now I'm wondering if their rates are high.
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KA, are you keeping this home for a while. If so, pay a point and you should be able to get 5.125%. If you dont pay the point, the higher interest rate will cost you much more in the long run. Jennifer, yes. And are you paying closing costs and 1 point? Remember a mortgage is like buying anything else, the more you pay the better the rate.
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As long as you're not dealing w/ an unscrupulous broker/banker:)
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Marco, sorry I can't answer your last question. Appraisal issues are just a standard part of the game now. However, I have not had any value issues on REO's. Each individual purchase has it's own quirks. Hopefully, you have a knowledgeable and trustworthy broker helping you.
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A point is not worth it for me. I have other debts with higher interest rates that makes the time value of money higher for me within my timeframe than the payoff of a lower mortgage rate.
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KA, seems like you thought it out.
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we have a contract for a new construction home and the closing is going to be oct end ... is it better to lock the rate now for 5.25% for .5 points for 90 days lock with one free float down 15 days prior to closing ?
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Hey guys, i got 5.125% at TD BankNorth for a 60 day lock in and closing on Aug 20th this year. Question i have is, i've noticed them charging every month a Hazard Ins of $111, any ideas what this is and why it's so much ? Thanks
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Hazard ins is the home owners insurance for the home.