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Foreclosures Cost Lenders, Homeowners, the Community, and You Big Bucks

by Glenn Setzer on
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Earlier this month a reader, Pamela Norvell, wrote a suggestion for lessening the foreclosure crisis. She suggested a freeze and/or a rollback of interest rates to their original levels. In making her suggesting Ms. Norvell wondered what it was causing lenders to foreclose on properties rather than do a workout or a restructure. Made us curious too.

The cost of a foreclosure, it turns out, is pretty staggering and we wonder why lenders and the investors they represent aren't jumping at a solution, any solution, that would allow them to avoid going to foreclosure whenever possible.

According the Joint Economic Committee of Congress, the average foreclosure costs $77,935 while preventing a foreclosure runs $3,300.

The cost of preventing a foreclosure is not easily categorized. We assume that it includes the staff costs of talking to the borrower, collecting financial documents (a task we have noted seems unreasonably difficult for the borrower) reviewing the documents, ordering and reviewing the appraisal, the cost of that appraisal (more likely to be a less expensive brokers price opinion or BPO) and the preparation of a justification to decision makers for any workout plan.

We have seen figures from non-profits that the cost of averting a foreclosure through the use of credit counseling from a non-profit agency approved by the Department of Housing and Urban Development can range from a bit under $1,000 to $14,000 and we don't quite know what to do with that large and disparate range. We do know that counseling programs vary greatly and we assume that those on the high side include programs that provide emergency funds to homeowners to bring loans current while those on the low side are primarily advising and educating their clients.

But the $77,934 cost to foreclosure figure seems fairly easy to document and, compared to others that are widely bandied about ' from $58,000 to 30 percent of the pre-foreclosure value of the house ' seems reasonable.

First of all, the cost does not accrue totally to the lender. The homeowner has a typical loss of $7,200 which includes loss of equity in the property, moving expenses, and perhaps some legal fees.

Those neighbors living in close proximity to the foreclosed house suffer $1,508 in losses from the decrease in the value of their own home as the neighborhood begins to deteriorate.

The local government loses $19,227 through diminished taxes and fees and a shrinking tax base as home prices decrease. This is a hard number to justify. First of all, only a portion of the declining tax base is due to foreclosures. A big chunk of it is based on falling prices community wide. And we'll bet that even as we talk about it local governments are busy adjusting assessments and mill-levies to keep total revenues close to pre-housing crisis levels. This means that the neighbor's share of the costs should be higher as they absorb increased tax levels.

Also, while the cities and towns are permanently losing some income from fees such as trash pick-up and water and sewer charges, if and when the house is sold they will collect back property taxes or, if they remain unpaid, they will become the owners of the property through tax title. (That opens a whole new area of concern, but one for discussion on a different day.)

That leaves us with total costs of $50,000 for the lender under the numbers produced by the Joint Economic Committee of Congress. The Committee does not break out these figures but a new study from Standard & Poor's (S&P) does. While there is not a total match between the two sets of data, they are close enough.

The Committee includes the following in its list of pre-and post-foreclosure expenses:

Loss on property/loan
Property maintenance
Appraisal
Legal fees
Lost revenue
Insurance
Marketing
Clean-up

And S&P breaks them down as follows:

The largest component of the $50,000 is cash loss on the property. S&P pegs this number at $40,000 for a typical loan of $210,000. Investors who buy short sales tell us that the big lenders are unwilling to sell property or take payoffs for more than a 15 to 20 percent discount so these numbers are closely in sync. S&P however includes only the actual decline in property values in that 19 percent loss figure.

S&P assigns a staggering 26 percent of the loan amount for the costs of foreclosure. This category wraps up the remainder of the list above and include paying property taxes (3 percent, although many ignore this obligation, hoping to pass accrued taxes on to the eventual buyer), maintaining hazard insurance, legal fees (1 percent), an appraisal (although most lenders are choosing the far less expensive alternative of a brokers price opinion or windshield appraisal,) lost revenue (an estimated 13.6 percent of the loan amount) 6 percent marketing fees (broker's commission) and 3 percent spent on home maintenance.

There is a figure that is usually not taken into account ' cash reserves. Bank regulations require that lenders put aside a percentage of their capital to cover potential losses. That amount, whether $100,000 or $500,000 is that much less that the bank has to loan to others and means more lost revenue.

It is obvious that no one is a winner in the foreclosure game. But we wonder if lenders and their real estate agents are not exacerbating the situation for all involved through their property management and marketing policies. A look at that later in the week.


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bette m martin
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the fha secure would work if the lender would allow a new first and take back a second. but if he will not take back a second where can we sell the second? we need a nother fnm and the banker to discount that second. he would be ahead but fha says get the non-profit to find the lender as how do you get past the servicer? to beable to talk to the lender..I hear there are some bank that will rewrite the notes. at the lower rate.
Debbie Veal
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If an investor purchased a 3 or 5 year ARM, they really didn't expect to have the loan for much longer that the fixed period. So any money made after that period of time is gravy. Then why can't they keep the rate where it was when the loan started and the borrower was paying on time?
Craig
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I comletely agree with the posts I have read, and do believe the servicers were happy to receive the customer, but left once the ink was dry. I myself was to move out of my house in 3 years soI obtained a 5 year ARM. I lost my job due to an injury and things went down hill. The responsibility is still mine, but the lenders were only concerned about their end. It did make a difference that they would get the home back and incur all the costs. I even tried to reason that they would not receive any money while I got myself together, but that they would definitely not receive any if they foreclosed. I like any other home owner does not want to lose their home, so they would benefit if they tacked the arrears on the end. I have since started my own business and will eventually get back on track, but what is going to help me is a program I qualified for that will enabled me to pay my mortgage off quicker. So I would like some of you mortage gurus to give me a call because I have some questions about the program. I am not a wiz so if you could thanks.
Wizard of Oz
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Forclosure rules are structured - cut and dry for lenders protection. Just follow the steps etc. Modification may not be same. Lenders could feel legally more ulnerable. Reset to normal interest on borrowed amount/s may still be to much to cover. HELOC's also enter into the equasion in many cases. No bailouts please. I didn't cause, why should I end up paying. Extra taxes for everyboby for sure.
Anonymous
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These lenders are letting computes make decisions vs. human beings. I was doing counseling on a friend's loan which was approximately $4,000 in arrears. He sent in $1,200 Western Union, they wouldn't accept the WU payment (found that out when WU sent letter). They wanted no less than $2700. He had an agreement that broke because he didn't send in $1000. He sent in $650 (which was more than his normal payment), but the computer said it wanted $2700 so we couldn't come to terms so the property is still in foreclosure after 3 months of him making double mortgage payments so they know he can afford it. No wonder this industry can't get the foreclosure rate turned around!
candace
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What about the insurance on the seconds, Like AIG, MGIC, Radigan they pay the loses there insured The banks don't own all there loans, they sold them off. Maybe there only servicing them? That's why they don't care.
Marcus Habeeb
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I am a mortgage banker/broker, own my own business 15 yrs. I think servicers are short sighted, they cause the situation to pro-long to the point of no return. I spoke to many servicers, unfortunately the people who answerd the phone cannot make decisions, they all follow the script and allow managable situation to get out of control and all suffer.Not every solution will fit every homeowners, but creativity is not one of their strength. You do not have to publish every solutions to the problem but should speak to every troubled home owners and devise solutions to fit their current circumstances. e.g all of the current solutions applied, if then try solutions like 1. apply 6 to 12 months mortgage payments to the back end of the principal, and let the home owner start afreash. I would say a lot of home owners will go this route rather than reduce the principal. 2. if some one was qualified for a 9to 12% loan with a 560 fico score , why can't they be qualified fo a market rate loan now? 3. all most all of these borrowers had excellent credit prior to the implode of the credit market, and melt down of home owners' equity. if the servicers cannot solve their problems, the get rid of the negative credit report and allow these borrowers to refinanced with a different instution base on todays' market place. these are some of my ideas. i know most of these things can work if applied correctly. i will send a letter to congress with some of my ideas. STOP all FORCLOSURE!!!!!!! and lets put our brains together and solve this problem
Curt Pifer
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Do want to hear a good one? I was at my favorite watering hole last Friday and I was talking to a guy who said he works for Countrywide. (This is a true story.) He tells me, "I worked in maintenance previously but just got promoted to the loss mitigation department and I'm scared to death because I don't know anything about real estate or foreclosure or collections." Fannie and Freddie are mulling over the idea of making Countrywide BUY BACK their crappy loans. Freddie and Fannie aren't the only investors suing or thinking about making lenders buy back their cruddy loans either. These pending invocations of buy back clauses and/or lawsuits is why lenders are unable or unwilling to modify loans. Lenders are quaking in their crap-filled loafers hoping to God this will all go away so they don't want to make waves with investors by telling them that they have to sell antoher one short or modify another loan. If the servicers can screw around long enough, homes will get foreclosed on and, in their minds, "Oh well and jeepers Mr. Investor. We had to foreclose on another home with your name on the note. Better luck next time."
Anonymous
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For the life of me I can't figure it out. However as it goes, there must be something in it for them or they wouldn't be resisting a work out so stringently.
Bill in CA
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I've been thinking a lot about this lately, especially when people say how much cheaper it would be for lenders to prevent a foreclosure. That surely fuels the attitude lenders are just horrible, and don't have a heart. When I was head of residential lending at a local institution, the industry norm often quoted was it costs a lender 25% of the loan amount to go through the complete foreclosure process, so the article's claim it is 26% seems factual. What I don't get is the claim it only costs the lender $3,300 to ''make a deal' with a borrower. What about property insurance having to be paid by the lenders, property taxes going delinquent, the property not being properly maintained, losses of servicing income, and those additional loss reserves needing to be set aside? I don't believe $3,000 per property transaction comes close to covering these. Yes, I do understand these are part of the foreclosure costs, what I don't understand is why we think the lenders won't suffer most of these costs in conjunction with NOT foreclosing? So, I can't bring myself to say it's the fault of the lenders and their real estate agents. We can certainly lay blame on lenders for chasing fee income, and not properly underwriting loan risks, but now the wound has been opened with non performance, doesn't the bleeding need to be stopped as quickly as possible? Giving the borrowers relief is a great idea, provided the lender gets the same treatment. BTW, I've lost a personal home to foreclosure myself, so I'm not only looking at one side. Bill
Lynn-Dee L Spencer
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Lenders take the loss as a write-off. Lenders are not loyal to their customers nor do they see the need to keep those customers. It's all about the $$$$
Doc
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You can not fix inability to pay by counseling. This is not an apples to apples comparison.
ernst
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What lenders do is criminal, because of greed they developed loan programs to suck the public dry and caused one of the biggest financial problems this country has ever known and now, they are so incompetent, belligerent, shortsighted, disorganized, understaffed, and sorry I almost wanted to use a vulgarity, perusing a strategy which makes no sense. Congress needs to investigate them not only how we got to where we are today, but how they are stonewalling to solve the problem. Try a loan modification forget it, try short sales they take so long, they lose all the paperwork, the mailboxes are full, the negotiators do not call back, they work with old BOP data and rather take a property into foreclosure than to be honest with the investor and take a small loss now vs. huge loss 9 months from now. This is a total mess and getting worst by the day. They collectively need a big enema. This causes property values to decline, sales to slow down, homeowners going into foreclosure and more and more mess. Some banks say, oh, we do not do short sales. What does it mean you are foreclosing on your seller, you have no interest to do a workout???
Red
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In 1993 50% plus, of all the loans in Long Beach, CA were upside down (mostly FHA & VA). Legendary Realtor Walter Sanford had just opened one of the 1st real estate companies that only sold homes that were in pre-foreclosure, foreclosure or lender owned. Walter shared some sage advice(and I'm paraphrasing), "The person running the foreclosure desk for the Lender is in one of the most unique positions in the work world. If they do no work at all, their work goes away (to foreclosure)!! You need them be your best friend and make them want to help you!!" At any one time these foreclosure desks were handling 50 to 100 files. The Lenders are just getting their operations up-to-speed to handle the tsunami of fixed period arms and option arm resets coming down the pipe in the next 18 months. The Lenders don't want to talk about it but there is no practical, realistic work-out scenario for the Option ARM's.
Anonymous
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A year ago I was offered a loan mod but still with ARM. I didn't take it and thank God I didn't because I just got a new loan mod with a fixed rate at 7%. Some lenders are doing the right thing, others are just going by the rule book and it's taking up to 30 days for a re-work to be reviewed, meanwhile attorney fees go up.
Betty Lou
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I am an appraiser and doing a lot of pre and foreclosurer work. I agree with the one comment on why raise the interest rate if the home owners are currently paying. Then you also have the fraud scenerio, of the investors wanting to get rich quick. I see alot of over valued properties at the time of the original sale. My suggestion would be that if the properties were over valued to begin with, after having a more accurate appraisal done, then let the lender base the mortgage on the more accurate appraisal. I am seeing 30-40,000 homes that were mortgaged for 70-80,000. Now they are forclosed on and the value is down to under 10,000 or so. The lender is already taking a 60-70,000 loss plus court costs. Wouldn't it be more feasible to cut your loss in half or so based on the adjusted appraised value. The investors would took the cash out should be arrested and tried, and convicted for mortgage fraud
Alan
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If the secondary market is looking to recoup some of their losses, all they have to do is go through the appraisals (if they bothered getting one). Appraisers have E & O insurance, usually for $500k - $2 million. Although it will bankrupt the insurers.....for example, if lenders were to review, lets say all the appraisals done in Pinal County Arizona over the last 2+ years, 90%+ of them would reflect a signed and dated appraisal that states, area "values are stable", supply/demand is "in balance", and marketing times are "3-6 months", all obviously false and easily documented as false. Lenders could go after these signed false documents and collect millions, hundred of millions, or at least collect until the insurers went under. Appraisal incompetence and fraud is so easily proven, and you have countless form filler "appraisers(?)" who, over the last five to ten years signed anything their mortgage broker/banker clients requested. I recently completed ~ 100 reviews out here in Az., 98 of 100 stated "values are stable", supply/demand is "in balance", and marketing times are "3-6 months". Even funnier, only one or two of the appraisers actually "drove the comparables", i.e. all the appraisers saved themseleves some time, money and gas by copying their comparable photos from the Mls, instead of actually inspecting them. Most amazing is the fact that lenders know that appraisers are often not doing the job, but it has no impact on their ability to continue work for them, despite the sophisticated data bases (Hansen Quality, CoreLogic, etc) they have compiled on the work quality of both appraisers and morgtgage brokers. Appraisals are treated like commodies, (a pork belly is a pork belly, no matter the pig). But if they are so meaningless and have so little value, and everyones opinion of value is equal to the opinion of an old wily appraiser such as myself, why bother. Either return to a standard of quality, making an effort to actually discern quality from form-filling, or just retire the whole "appraisal" concept and let the AVM's do the job the way lenders seem to most appreciate, fast and cheap!!
Dan
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Lenders have been getting a bad reputation here lately, and to most degree they deserve the verbal slamming they are recieving. I agree that so lenders are crooked and lead their clients astray, I do believe that it is their fault for not educating the buyer on the evils of ARM loans, but the market is changing and the wrong is being righted and most of those vendors are taking their money and running. So let's not place fear on buying a house, and drive the market down further. Let's pick up the peices and learn from our mistakes and the mistakes of others so we can hopfully pull through this crisis.
Roz
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For one thing, I find that $77k figure a bit far fetched. But opinions on that aside, what I will keep going back to is the fact that these lenders would not be taking such large losses if they had properly accounted for the inherent risk. If you're going to make a 90% LTV Interest Only loan with no docs and no PMI, then you better have a plan in place to absorb the loss. Otherwise it is nothing but a bad business decision, the consequences of which no one else but that lender should have to bear. This idea of bailing people out for making bad business decisions is like a get out of jail free card. You want to help the homeowners who might have been swindled? Ok. I am for that. But tell these guys that it was ok to be greedy and be careless and reckless because when it all blows up the american public will back you up? Absolutely not. But then that's the American way, isn't it? All the rights, none of the responsibility.
Andy
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I am disgusted with banks in general and most mortgage brokers in particular. No one in my state has been arrested yet for criminal practices, nor have they even been fined. Its business as usual. Yet, I was confused as to why the banks would not accept offers to buy homes at decent prices ( not short sales), why the banks put the homes with realtors anywhere from 20-70,000 OVER the high retail price, why ba nks let those houses sit on the market for 4-9 months reducing their prices all the while to the market level, why the banks do not often accept short sales, and why the banks are so stubborn, arrogant and defiant in dealing with agents who present purchase and sales agreements. I got my answer from several attorneys I deal with. They say that the banks made Ga-Zillions during the upsurge and are playing a paper game, namely, counting the losses from the high 7ok range down to the lowest dollar amount at the point of sale and reporting that as a loss on their books. They pick and choose according to their most recent month's report as to when and where they will declare such losses. If that is true, then the IRS should be vigorously auditing those banks, and placing under arrest those individuals who partake in such fraud. This white collar criminality is the absolute worst in the history of our country. It makes the Dot.com bubble seem insignificant in comparison, and we are told that over 7 TRILLION dollars were stolen in that fiasco. My question to that would be: Where did all that money go? ...and WHERE is the money going in THIS mortgage crisis??? Folks, there's a TON of money missing and those responsible should have to pay, and pay dearly. Call your congressmen and ask them why they're not doing more to expose the vicious attack on our monetary system that we see happening, because, folks, that is exactly what has happened. Our dollar is low ( in violation of the mandates of the Constitution, which these congressmen are sworn to uphold), our monetary system is in shambles and debt overwhelms most people in our country. We need answers, and we need them now. Make those calls today. Thank you
Michael
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I'm a lawyer keeping borrowers in their homes. I haven't lost one yet and some have been in for over 2 years with not a single payment! Lenders don't want to workout anything even though we have a judge "encouraging" them to come to the table.The lenders are waiting for the bailout coming soon to your back pocket. Hang on to your hat folks....it may be all you have left!!!!!
Margie OCampo de Castillo
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Our market is saturated with abandoned homes, foreclosed homes and short sales, which prompt many questions that need to be answered. • How are lenders dealing with homeowners who CAN afford their mortgage payments but because their home is no longer worth what they paid, the go out and buy a second home and then allow their first home to go into foreclosure? o Are new clauses being incorporated to loan documents that will penalizes folks who do this? These selfish & fraudulent schemes affect everyone. They are a direct hit to homeowners who need to sell their homes or those who choose to weather the storm as they are the ones left with dilapidated homes in the neighborhood which makes the entire neighborhood prone to criminal activity. These homes also help drop the area values further and make the neighborhood less desirable for Sellers who desperately need to sell. This does not even begin to address the financial damage to an already feeble housing industry and national economy. o What checks and balances do lenders have in place to spot these types of buyers? Are they even looking out for these trends? • It’s within the Lender’s purview to alleviate much of the real estate market stress and it should be the Lender's responsibility to provide a solution as they were not only the benefactors of the greed and alleged fraud that is causing the collapse of a pillar that once helped keep the economy's steady pace. Instead, we hear about Lenders making the sale of their foreclosed home inventory sometimes impossible! Is it because they are waiting to be given the easy way out at the taxpayer’s expense? o Shouldn’t a third party be in charge of selling the foreclosed property inventory since “time is of the essence” is not a factor when it comes to Lenders responding to purchase offers? There’s an ever increasing number of allegations of Lenders turning down reasonable offers to purchase foreclosed properties....who benefits from this? o Why don’t Lenders allow the homeowner who was able to pay the original monthly mortgage payment (but is not able to afford the new adjusted interest rate) to keep that original teaser interest rate for an additional 5 years, versus taking the property to foreclosure? Foreclosure can cost between $40,000-$75,000, and this does not begin to address the ripple effect on the neighborhood, community and economy! o Rather than have a vacant home, why don't lenders allow homeowner who can no longer afford their original mortgage to stay in the property as a tenant. A lesser monthly payment in lieu of the damage and crime that accompanies a vacant property seems to be a wiser alternative. It can't be done...It's never been done before..... Well, we've never been down this road before either. Yes, we have been down similar roads, but our economy today is the victim of a perfect storm of sorts with many variables at play.
cliff pape
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One reason why lenders are willing to take homes to foreclosure is because usually these loans have insurance that covers 20%-30% of the loan. So if they take property to foreclosure they only need to recoup 70%-80% of the original loan and there are alot of people at foreclosure auctions that are willing to pick up a foreclosure at that discount. Did the study take into account that the mortgage company is being covered by insurance?
Justin
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Everyone is asking where the money has gone? And call you congressman or woman to help. Well they are getting paid, ALL the people who can help with the foreclosure crisis are benefitting from the losses one way or another. Some people need to get real and get thinking. Dont be lazy and read every loan document that you sign, and if you dont understand them, then have someone there who does. Dont be a moron. Its business, and business is dirty. We are in this crisis because the Average American thought well if something bad happens, SOMEONE will take care of me, SOMEONE in the government will bail us out. HOW ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOLKS! So sick of hearing the banks be blamed for this. I know everyone who took an ARM was offered a fixed rate at the same time! They just wanted to gamble! Dont blame the bank for giving you what you wanted. ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE RESEARCH ON THE MOST IMPORTANT TRANSACTION OF YOUR LIFE! People are sooooo stupid. We are begging for Communism, because we can't govern ourselves.
Screwed by greedy banks
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I am one of the guys who is doing the right thing and paying my mortgage on time on a house that is worth less what I owe. However I am reaching this conclusion, I did everything by the book and I at a loss, in the mean time the big banks are asking for a government bailout. If that happens I will stop paying my mortgage and give back my home to the bank, in the end it belongs to them until I pay the loan off. If these greedy pigs would have not approved mortgages to everyone who can sign their name we would not be in this mess. All new construction form 2002to 2005 was financed that way, it was nice job done by builders and lenders, builders sold more homes at higher prices while the lenders made the underwriting fees, sold the debt as CDO to the unsuspecting public with the help of the Wall Street crooks that are also getting bailed out by their buddy Paulson, the ex Goldman Sachs chief now Treasury Secretary. Who is left holding the bag? We the hardworking public. Unfortunately the average American is so dumb that he can not figure out who is screwing them and how they are getting screwed.
Anonymous
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You know, when you tell lies and do people dirty all the time, you start believing what you do is right. These lenders, banks, brokers, real estate, and mortgage people, and Justin, have done people (the American consumer)wrong for so long, it is finally catching up with them and its a fixin to hit you hard that is the reason why you are sitting in the hot seat and calling names. Business is NOT dirty when it is done true and correct and honestly which is obviously, something you know nothing about.
anonymous
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I work for a servicer. One challenge is that other servicers have not been staffed appropriately and have not trained their loss mit staff appropriately. Another issue is that many of the people who are looking for a workout or relieft option do not qualify for a loan modification that is, even if we modified their loan they still could not afford their payments.
20 Years in Banking
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You guys can point your fingers at the banks, mortgage brokers, servicers and appraisers all you want, but the real fault lies with the borrowers. How many of you borrowers told the truth on you loan apps? You cannot convince me that you did not know what you were getting yourselves into! You just did not think that there would be any repurcussions!!!
Elfie
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The big magnates at the top who control the economy got their money's worth with this mortgage mess. Betty Lou above is right about the damage to our monetary system. Our economy and institutions are being dismantled piece by piece. It is another Enron feast. There is nothing you can do, but pray that the end does not come sooner than expected, but everything seems to be collapsing around us. Greed and the love of money is driving this economic collapse.
Lea
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Interesting comments and having owned a mortgage banking firm for 28 years I'm wondering why this melt-down is a surpise to those in the lending industry? The sound principal of making loans has always been the buyers willingness and ability to repay the loan. Ooops, our industry forgot that small detail, and the mania started. Bonds were created to back these loans (secondary market). ABC Hedge Fund establishes a set of guidelines and says to XYZ mortgage banker, follow these guidelines and we'll buy them. XYZ mortgage banker says to CBA mortgage broker, here are our guidelines. CBA mortgage broker goes to customer and says I can get you a loan the guidelines they are given from XYZ. Property values escalate by 20%, the american consumer is bombarded by advertisements, refinaces become an epedimic, we're tired of working 40 hours and traveling 20 hours and not spending time with our family. Our next door neighbor tells us how they just bought a rental with zero down and are going to make a killing when they sell the property and guess what, they didn't even have to qualify to get the loan. Greed, you bet..who's to blame...we all are as Americans. Does the lender loose money on a foreclosure, you bet. Can they do a workout, well depends on the investor. Remember they don't own the loans, they only service them and therefore they don't get to change the rules. If I invest money in the stock market and that stock looses value, who is going to bail me out. Didn't I take that risk hoping to win but knowing that I could also loose? My company didn't join the sub-prime arena, 58 employees lost their jobs because the consumer wanted that ARM that their neighbor had, and my LO's would try to talk them out of it because they understood that they would never be able to repay that loan. Now those same consumers are saying poor me? Don't we all need to accept the blame?
CaliGirl
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Why aren't the States legislating that the lenders/servicers are required to rework loans for both consumers in default and those who are paying as agreed. Borrowers struggling to keep their mortgages current are getting the shortest end of the stick. A lender won't even consider a loan mod for a borrower who is current. Also, maybe the Feds should establish an anonymous tip-line for industry insiders to blow the whistle on lenders and brokers who embraced illegal lending practices. Lastly, it is unfathomable that our elected representatives are allowing this meltdown to occur. They worked through the weekend to ensure that Bear Stearns didn't evaporate, yet, helping the average American family is a bailout. Most Americans are dumb and vote against their own economic interest. Mostly poor, white, illiterate folks ensure that criminals like George Busch, Cheaney and those who support them can disembowel the general public, steal from the Treasury and not be accountable, nor pay taxes on their ill-gotten gains. The system is corrupt and until people think for themselves and stop being manipulated by fear mongering and race bating, the country we knew and loved, America the Beautiful, will see its people relegated to the ranks of a third world nation. Really people, wake up and smell the coffee. The crooks in the White House are so confident that our wide-spread apathy will keep us silenced, they don't even pretend to want to help us in any way.
Larry Rubinoff
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This is a very interesting topic with some very interesting comments. I have written on this myself and proposed a similar and even more extensive solution. The effort as well is to keep people in their homes. Under the current circumstances, that would do so much more for everyone and begin to stabalize the market. The problem is we always refer to speaking to the "Lenders" to do the workout. Almost no one speaks to their lender, they are speaking to a servicing company hired to collect their payments and keep records of their accounts. Yes, many servicers are owned by the original lender but as one comment said, they do not own the loan. The loans for the most part are owned by hundreds or even thousands of "investors" who bought interests in a security backed by mortgage loans (MBS). There is so much more to this story then meets the eye. Basically it is all about greed and the transference of wealth by our large institutions. We tend to forget that institutions are run by individuals who in many cases own a great deal of stock in their own companies and recieve LARGE paychecks, benefits, stock options and more. They live better then most in this country. From time to time the government needs to boost the economy and to do so they must make credit available. Since the government cannot legislate credit availability, they go to the people that do - the heads of our financial institutions. They offer them incentives and show them how they can further enrich themselves by making more credit available. None of this is done for the people. Yes, the people do benefit for a short period of time but when it comes time to stem the tide of oridnary people making too much money, the people are sacraficed. We all see the impact of what is currently happening. Not only are people losing their homes, they are losing their jobs, their savings and their investments. We, as a nation, are going broke. Just look around you and see the misery surrounding you and your naeighbors. The fraud began at the top. Fraudulent AAA ratings, fraudulent sales of securities to unwitting investors worldwide many of whom were large financial institutions themselves. Sales of these securities to pension plans, etc., etc. etc. In other words EVERYONE is losing. Would not that investor or investors holding their interests in the security (the actual owners of the mortgage) not be better off to lower the interest rates, lower the payments even write off the inflated value and keep the property OCCUPIED and paying. After all, now they receive 0% return on their investment so even if they lowered rates to 1% at least they are getting positive cash flow instead of negative returns and losses. The problem is that their are too many investors in each MBS, the "servicer" cannot identify them all and are better off themselves to continue "servicing" then working things out. THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS BROKEN and no one is addressing that fact nor doing anything to fix it. All the government so called solutions are just window dressing and fluff to show us, the people who are in trouble, that help is on the way. False hope and misleading to the people in a democratic society where these same government people work "for us" and are responsible "to us" not the other way around. Let us not forget that they are on OUR payroll. Yes, even the President of the United States is on OUR payroll. Three cheers to Michael, the attorney in his June 3rd post. He is keeping people in their homes during a foreclosure as he is keeping the system at task. In other words, I believe he has discovered the FRAUD in foreclosures and is enforcing the laws.