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ARM Freeze Yields Solution To All World Problems

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Lets congratulate the Bush administration, the Federal Reserve and the democrat controlled Congress. It looks like they have come up with a breakthrough approach to problem solving that may finally end the world's problems once and for all.

The breakthrough came with the idea to freeze ARM rates so that borrowers will not be subjected to the terms of the agreements that they voluntarily signed. Combine that innovative thinking with the ongoing efforts to save Wall Street from its own irresponsible actions. It seems that the U.S. government and the federal reserve will finally succeed in realizing a foundational tenet of liberal politics - change the laws and the way financial markets work so that we can eliminate personal responsibility and individual accountability once and for all.



Just ignore the fact that the "full faith and credit" of the United States government will be undermined and perhaps destroyed. Never mind that every individual involved here has made decisions that they knew had risk and potential consequences.

Lets just ignore the terms of existing mortgage loans, let all borrowers in default off the hook, pass some new laws, and expand FHA so that the American taxpayer can be required to pick up the tab for a new round of subprime lending under the guise of "government guaranteed loans". That way we can avoid a financial meltdown, avoid consequences of our collective actions, and continue to expand this madness even further by making the same stupid financial decisions in the future at taxpayer expense.

But in pondering the situation in which we now find ourselves, I realized that in fact this line of reasoning may actually be used to save the world and solve all of the worlds major problems.

If we can simply decide to alter the way financial markets operate, change existing contractual commitments in the middle of the game, and in the process ignore the long term consequences of such ill advised actions, then lets just take this line of reasoning one step further and solve all of the worlds problems.

As soon as the U.S. government gets finished solving the world credit crisis, which may take another week or two, lets move on to some other major issues...

Global warming - How about a law that stops global warming by mandating that all future carbon emissions should fall to the ground and wash away with the next good rain storm?

Eliminate the threat of world pandemics like Bird Flu - How about a law that says that all birds who are sneezing or have a "runny beak" shall be required to stay at least 1000 feet away from any humans?

World Hunger - While we're at it, lets make sure that all of the oppressive regimes in the "third world" are required to feed all of their citizens until they get at least as fat as the average citizen of "first world" nations.

I know what you are thinking...these are obviously silly ideas that can't be enforced by passing laws...I rest my case.

Only one thing can solve the present financial crisis we find ourselves in, and that is to let the chips fall where they may. Let the free markets do their thing, let the accountability fall where it lies...at the feet of those who have made irresponsible financial decisions that they must be held accountable for. Let all involved learn their lessons, and learn that decisions have consequences, and that risk and reward go hand in hand.

We will never solve problems by ignoring them, failing to account for them or by trying to avoid the consequences of our actions. Borrowers who borrowed more than they could afford should learn that there is a price to be paid for such irresponsibility. Lenders who make loans to people who can't afford those loans need to understand that there are consequences for such irresponsible business practices. Investors seeking high returns need to understand that high risk follows high reward. All investments look good on paper, but reality can be a very different thing.

Until we are willing to confront our own financial irresponsibility by facing the consequences of our own personal decisions all the way down the financial "food chain", we will never reach a point of true financial stability again. America is already at a crisis point, and a potential turning point in our history that theatens to undermine our national stability and could well be our undoing in the near future. Only a return to integrity and personal accountability will stabilize the system and restore the "full faith and credit" of the United States of America.

Any financial system is only as good as the integrity and commitment of the individuals who are involved in it. When it's all said and done, it all boils down the the actions and decisions of millions of individuals. There is a reason why home buyers were once required to make substantial downpayments. And there is a reason why financial managers are expected to follow common sense rules of finance and investment.

Oh - I just thought of one more law we need to pass...let's recognize that the government is not our "baby-daddy". We don't need more "child support" to be paid by already over-burdened American taxpayers. Let's pass a law that says that all members of the U.S. Congress, and all state and local municipalities must manage taxpayer funds with sound financial principles so that the american taxpayers actually realize a solid return on their investment...Yeah, I know, this really IS the most ridiculous idea of all, but you can't blame me for daydreaming.


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Jon Gutek, JD/CPA
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Great thinking and great writing. I agree.
Robert
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Donna you have a very misinformed and misguided view of our nationwide financial crisis. Although I agree with you that people have to be responsible for their actions, much of what has caused this meltdown have been from unscrupulous lenders and real estate agents. Don't misunderstand, I'm not excusing or removing the responsibility of the homeowner, but I see these types of cases daily in trying to help these people resolve their foreclosures and getting back on their feet.
Pete
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Unfortunately the bad guys will get away without being held accountable for this debachle. The bad guys in this case are all of us. Mortgage brokers, mid-level mortgage executives, realtors, lawyers, bond rating agencies, federal supervisory agencies and their heads, CEO'S, politicians, investment bankers. investors, home buyers.
Dan
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
To all including the author: this is no longer a problem where the biggest measure is financial. The largest measure of this problem has now become social. The effect on society of this mess will effect even those who made good financial decisions. Some effects will be higher crime and decreased tax revenues. My sugesstion to all is to get over the blame game and come up with solutions of your own rather than criticizing the people who have already tried.
Dave
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Great article. The point is self responsibility. This country is moving away from that and more towards bloated government oversight. Nobody was forced to take any of these loans. Just the fact that they were offered did not force anybody to take one out. Lack of financial common sense and prudence. If you fell for a slick sales pitch, its your own fault. If you didnt know an ARM would reset, its your own fault. If you cant afford the loan you agreed to payback, its still your own fault.
Cindi Rees
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Hi Donna - I've been a mortgage lender for 25 years and I agree with you that the public has to take responsibility. Thank you for a refreshing perspective as a REALTOR. So many want to blame only lenders when in fact my belief is it started with irresponsibility on the part of the consumer.
Clarence D
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Realtor's need to shut up! They are just as guilty for this mess as anybody. Greed!
Watchdog
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
The inefficiency of the free markets is one of the things that put us in this position so to leave it up to them is a nothing solution. As a former LO I have always been amazed at what people will sign without reading. That is only a part of the problem when many borrowers are misled, lied to, etc. If the markets were working, this wouldn't be necessary.
Marlon
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
I wished the writing was more from a serious, less ironical and better knowledgeable of the intricacies of the national and world economics, unbiased from the national pride and “personal taxes paying for all” blinding the objectives of the national and international governmental bond markets with national and international tax paying private investors paying a very large tax bill. Way too biased, political and individualistic.
Art
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
You elude to the millions who made poor decisions and low down payments. FHA required just 3% down that's $450 on a $15,000 purchase. How about the millions made by the purveyors of the loans? You build homes for families to grow and improve their style of living. What if there are no affordable homes available, you have to use one of the instruments provided under HUD guidelines to finance the beast or stay in your shack by the railroad shacks.
Connie
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Why is it that the little guy is always to blame? As a mother of 4, I taught my children to accept responsibility for their actions, as I do. I, also taught them to understand their actions. The current problem was created by money hungry people who presented to the American public a way to advance their families. These people do not understand that mortgage, lenders do not care if they get into trouble they care about their bottom line. I think the goverment should find a way to aid them.
Former LO
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
The tone of this article is pedantic, condescending and dripping with a smarmy sarcasm. I find it ironic that this article was put out there at this time of the year. How many times did I hear a Realtor tell me to do what it takes to get the deal done and make it POSSIBLE for them to earn their commission, asking me to cut back while never being willing themselves to cut their percentage? Too many to count.
Mark
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
The damage has been done you can not fix what has already happend. You fix what you can by not letting it get worse. Who cares if these people are going to get a better deal. Keep them in their house and keep our values from nose diving. Never let the Realtors show people homes they can not afford and stop the lenders from offering products that will cause this problem again. We are about to face the largest real estate decline in history and people like Donna want to play Judge and Jury,,,
Connie
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
People are being mislead the lenders will work with you. This is not the case, only a minority of people are being aided by their lenders. In Calif. I know several people who are in trouble and their lenders are not willing to work with them. That is the reason that the government needs to get serious about this situation. The cost of maintaining vacant homes is great, bad for neighborhoods and our economy.
Thomas A B Johnson
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Watch Dog: Huh? You can't complain about free markets being inefficient. Free markets by definition are hyper efficient. Efficient free markets would never have gotten us here. Fannie and Freddie are an interference with free markets.
Scott
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
It is kind of funny though that this all started within 6 months of mortgage brokers residing in reality offices. Funny huh? Anyone in the mortgage business knows that you make more on a fannie mae or fha loan. Subprime is only to get the deal closed faster. Gee who might like that?
Thomas A B Johnson
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
All the Govt backed and GSE backed securities are the reason why caution and good lending practices were thrown in the trash.
Jason Purcell
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
This is a great article. More people in congress need to feel this way. Even though I do feel for the people in tough times. They need to learn the and accept the consequences for their financial decisions.
Dan P
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Ditto, ditto, ditto! PS Ditto!!
Nathan
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Great article!
Mark
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Donna If nothing is done to help this issue. Your next door neighbors gets a payment they can not afford and they walk. That empty home next to yours kills your value, vandals ,thieves and addicts target that empty house (next to yours). As they damage the house (you lose value), the police reports show a spike in incidents. People that were breaking into empty homes are now breaking into your house. Congrats You now live in a high crime area and your value is zero. any more good ideas
Art
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
I guess you can tell I for one don't buy your explanation and solution to the world problems. You stated let the chips fall where they may. Let the free market do their thing. Fine, but without intervention by local, state and federal insursion. "You may see the wizard now" Art Serrano 45 years dealing with distressed and retail market in California, Arizona and Nevada.
Scott
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Finally, a realtor that knows what they are talking about. Good opinion.
David Griffin
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
You go, girl. Very good article. I , for one, love your tone and dripping sarcasm. I laughed out loud at "baby-daddy". I have been a mortgage lender in central Georgia for 25 years and believe there is no person in the world with as much common sense as a native Georgian. Your article proves my point.
Dan
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
I agree with your aritcle, even though I am concerned about my own home value. Having been through near bankruptcy experience, I learned to be much more careful with my finances. Those lessons are helping me to withstand the current market. I empathize with what people are going through, but still believe taking responsibility for our actions is ultimately the best teacher. The market will rebound in a much more realistic environment if we let the market settle the issue.
Anonymous in Michigan
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
That articule reads as though it was well thought out, however, if everyone is to deal with the "let the chips fall where they may" why is the government constantly bailing out the lenders with billion's of dollars, there doesn't seem to be a fair standard here. The borrowers, regardless of how they got into the situation, don't seem to be gaining any immediate ground as the lending or banking industries.
boomhauer
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
No comments section on a fiscally related blog would be complete without a "vote for ron paul".. so consider this one now completed ,) it sometimes seems he is the only one in d.c. (congressional OR presidential) who cares about fiscal responsibility.
Corey H. Rockafeler
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Are you a journalist or a preported journalist? If you are the latter, then it explains the tenor of this "article." Your ideological hue and journalistic myopia preclude any real depth in this article. There is NO single villain in the sub-prime mortgage narrative. It is a shared blame fueled by greed and transferance of risk.Arguments can be calibrated in a number of ways. Follow the money. A starting is the bespoke and opague derivative devised on Wall Street. Corey H. Rockafeler
Pete
on Fri, Dec 21 2007 8:00 AM
Some were naive some were just plain dishonest. Sorting out the good from the bad will be almost impossible (expensive) so it probably won't get done. One of Democracies great flaws is being exposed. Honest leadership is a will-o-the-wisp because the public doesn't want to hear the truth.
Mike
on Sat, Dec 22 2007 8:00 AM
I have never defaulted on a loan or lien in my life and I am not a Banker or writer. Some how I am not surprised that this article was written by a realtor, the same peoples who talked me into my ARM (which I am paying responsibly). Realtors are becoming the bigger problem in America as they are trained to sell to John Q. Public, something he or she cannot afford and then leads them through the steps of becoming bankrupt. Who is really the problem? A Good Salesperson perhaps?
Will
on Sun, Dec 23 2007 8:00 AM
WOW make people responsible for their actions! What a concept! Nobody "talked" anyone into getting an arm loan, it was chosen for the lower payment, but still we have crybabies saying wah! I was coercered into doing something I did not want to do, I really wanted to make the higher payment and pay the higher interest rate but my loan officer/realtor told me not to. What a crock! Accept responsibility for your actions. Everyone quit blaming others for the stupid decisions we all make. Its life.
Lucas
on Mon, Dec 24 2007 8:00 AM
What a smarmy yet ignorant article. Here is what truly free, completely unregulated markets result in: huge financial crises. Welcome to the current one.
Jose
on Tue, Dec 25 2007 8:00 AM
The real estate agents and the loan officers are the professionals that must be held accountable for they should have known that most of the people that they represented that purchased homes and loans were made readily available to, earned on the average 35K to 60K annual salary. Those people were therefore unable to afford a 500K or 600K loan. The entire industry took advantage of stated income loans to facilitate the sale to earn a commission.
Harry
on Wed, Dec 26 2007 8:00 AM
I have to agree! There are many problems to speak of. Can I blame my Realtor or Loan officer for not being able to make my house payment because I am now for the first time in many years unemployed? Thousands of new jobs were filled in the last Quarter, so now unemployment is down? Or just maybe people had to work 2 or more jobs to make ends meet. Everyone can read what they sign, most everybody has an Elementary School education. I thought there were only 2 kinds of loans, fixed or adjustable!
Terr
on Wed, Dec 26 2007 8:00 AM
There are many people to blame. I for one was able to refi before my ARM adjusted. I had no idea what I had gotten into until the time came for the adjustment. People trust that the people in the business will not mislead them. While I agree people should be responsible, I also believe that I should not have to suffer because someone just wanted to make the sale even if the person not afford it or not. My house value is still dropping and will continue to do so until something is done.
Mel
on Wed, Dec 26 2007 8:00 AM
Adjustable rate mortgages are products. These "creative products" offer huge incentives for the broker. The mortgage lenders offer high commissions to push their products not just to people who have low credit scores. These products are the first products offered to majority of first time home buyers even with great credit scores. Remember...brokers, realtors and lenders are damn good salespeople. All you responsible credit card (liability) holders are a bigger problem to our economy.
Cookie
on Thu, Dec 27 2007 8:00 AM
As one of the "Evil Loan Officers" out there...I am sick of having people blame everyone else for the financial problems they get themselves into. You know what happens when I tell my prospective client that they are trying to purchase more house than they can afford? They go to someone else who won't tell them that and then when they get in over their head, they come to me to "fix" it. I also go over each and every document with my clients to ensure they understand! Nobody is forced!
Bo
on Thu, Dec 27 2007 8:00 AM
WOW...a person signs 743 pages of documents at a real estate closing, with at least 2784 signatures...and yet the poor consumer is supposedly unaware of what they were gettinginto? Puuuu-lease. Wake up people...smell the damn coffee. I say let the chips fall...lets flush this thing out and get back to reality, and a free market system. Great Article.
Jeri
on Thu, Dec 27 2007 8:00 AM
Yeah, let the chips fall where they may! I already made my millions selling homes to irresponsible buyers and bought a few of my own which I managed to refinance through friends in the business. Forget about all the customers that made me money in the first place, let them face the consequences for ever trusting me to begin with. It's not my fault, I'm just doing my job as a salesperson. I have no judiciary duty to my clients, I just pretend to look out for their best interest. Too bad.
Garland
on Fri, Dec 28 2007 8:00 AM
I am a licensed Realtor in Michigan & Texas and I agree whole heartedly with your analysis of the mortgage crisis. It is also my opinion that all irresponsible parties should bear the burden of their deliberate misdeeds or incompetence. It is not the obligation of the government or the tax payers to bear the financial burden to bail them out. Our current load for taxes and cost of living expenses are quite overwhelming. I will be sharing this article frequently with my clients and colleagues.
martha
on Sat, Dec 29 2007 8:00 AM
do you know how many people have live in sec 8 rental houses for ten, twenty years or more and the gov paid part of their rent, well why can't they do the same thing for people to own their homes reather than rent, at least they will be able to own some day and start to pay their own payment after a short time. I thank helping them to own their home is better than helping them to rent for life.
Caring Real Estate Agent
on Sat, Dec 29 2007 8:00 AM
The burden is not on the person getting the loan it is on the person advising on the loan. Lets call it they way it is, a first time home buyer has no knowledge of the mortgage lending business and that is the reason why they come to realtors and mortgage brokers(The Professionals). It is our fudiciary duty to look out for the best interest of our clients and not just try to get them a loan to make money. If we were held accountable then the mortgagees would not be in such a rut!
Ruben B. Austria
on Mon, Dec 31 2007 8:00 AM
Donna, this is a great article. I own a mortgage company in Boston, MA and I can't agree with you more on your opinion about personal responsibility. Everyone should be responsible for their own life, regardless of all the outside circumstances. I talked about your article in my podcast. Make it a great day! Ruben from renewsyoucanuse.com.
Justin
on Mon, Dec 31 2007 8:00 AM
During the refinance boom I tried my hardest to put my clients in 30 year fixed mortgages. But all I got in response is, "I want that rate...Ameriquest is offering this rate..." We hear it and say it all the time in our industry but if it hasn't branded the Mortgage Industry now then it never will..."Price is what you pay, Value is what you get."
Jenny
on Tue, Jan 1 2008 8:00 AM
If Lenders never created these loan products in the first place we wouldn't have this problem. Because of their greed, they offer a false hope, or as they call it, an opportunity to live the American Dream. People who desire so much to live this dream fall prey to these predators.
Tspence
on Thu, Jan 3 2008 8:00 AM
I took offense to the article. I think your demeanor was very condescending. I think there are some things seasoned mortgage/real estate people don't understand and I think people took these loans as a break and hoped that their situation would improve. Yes, they knew the risks but many of you are not buyer advocates, you're predators who don't care. It's unfortunate that there are so many people in this situation because of this. Sharks.
SteveInBrownstown
on Sat, Jan 5 2008 8:00 AM
Who's responsible? Everyone deserves a bit of blame! Regarding creative/adjustable products - am I the only one who can program a spreadsheet to show forecasts of payments? It's not rocket science to show 3% (or whatever) growth in income each year over X years, and max interest rates over the same X year period. Every REALTOR should have provided their buyer with this no-brainer forecast sheet. Smart choice or not, at least the REALTOR would have done their duty and informed their buyer.
K-legal
on Mon, Jan 7 2008 8:00 AM
Tspence..I totally agree with you!! I, also, am affended by this article...Donna you so did not nail this one on the head. You're article is completely biased and one-sided. What a shameful article to read!!!!
Marty S
on Mon, Jan 7 2008 8:00 AM
In reference to: "If Lenders never created these loan products in the first place we wouldn't have this problem." Lenders created products to meet the demands required of borrowers. If the borrowers didn't want these loans, they would not exist. The greed of the borrower in conjunction with the borrowers refusing to buy homes they could actually afford set up the perfect storm scenario. I want, I want, I want....that is all we heard from borrowers.
Mike
on Tue, Jan 8 2008 8:00 AM
The article was right on. I wouldn't expect the goverment to bail me out if I make a bad investment in the stock market & thats just what these borrowers did. They speculated home prices would rise and they didn't. Not my problem.
brian
on Wed, Jan 9 2008 8:00 AM
You have to consider that homeownership would not have been at an all time high if it wasn’t for many of these products. Today’s guidelines were invented in the 50’s for Ozzie and Harriet who are now dead. Because of creative financing many people who could never have gotten into a home were able to. Unfortunately since Conforming guidelines are so strict and such low loan amounts, it forced many borrowers into stated loans giving them an even higher payment. Today the guidelines are even more strict making it even harder for people to keep their home. Not everyone got burned or is upside down in their home. At the end of every cycle there is a group holding the bag. Just like the last group of investors who buy a stock at its high point and then the stock drops. Don’t get me wrong, I know that there are many people in the business that should not be and it hurt all the responsible, professional people in the business.
Paul Silver
on Thu, Jan 10 2008 8:00 AM
Unfortunately, the only law you discuss that actually can have any teeth in it is the one you are criticizing... legislating for the preservation of property to owners who cannot afford it can actually have an real impact... the other laws are toothless, as they would have no impact at all... A better example would be some law that legislates that the government stay within budget, by law... that could be enforced... the others are ridiculous... sorry to say... But we get the point...
Robh
on Sun, Jan 20 2008 8:00 AM
Yes the borrowers are responsible, but don't forget that the lenders that wrote these guidlines ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE!! The lenders agreed to these terms too, and should be aware that if home prices drop, these borrowers aren't going to be able to refi or make make the payments! DUH!!! If you double the borrowers payment already at 55% DTI (or higher with a stated loan) there is no way in hell the payment will get paid. I DISAGREE with this article. A good comprimise instead of both parties on the mortgage note losing everything is fixing the rates. The lenders get some return insteda of losing 50% on a forclosure and the borrowers can keep there home. When the market improves as it will maybe a lien added to the property can help the lenders down the road to make up the difference. THERE HAS TO BE BETTER WIN WIN THEN A LOSE LOSE. If the governement has to facilitate something to make a comprimise then it's worth it. Who else is going to make these negotiations.
Robh
on Sun, Jan 20 2008 8:00 AM
Also, WHY WOULD REALTORS EVER BE BLAMED. A buyer wants a home, a realtor finds it and presents it to them. As long as the price was market price it's not the realtors job to make sure the whole housing market doesn't crash so borrowers can't refi. I'm a loan officer I would never blame a realtor, nor myself. Realtors and Loan Officers provide what the borrowers want. They want a home. It doesn't matter if we tell buyers/borrowers if they can't afford it, they still want there home. And sub-prime borrowers are the worst with wanting what they can't afford.
Jeremy Hop
on Wed, Jan 23 2008 8:00 AM
It figures a Realtor would post such a column. Hooking people with predatory lending is what caused this problem. Sure, we should have personal responsibility but can you throw a pile of candy in front of a child and expect him/her not to over indulge? I almost got hooked into a 5 Yr ARM by a shyster mortgage broker. All he was concerned with was his bottom line. He didn't even highlight the terms or explain them until I asked before signing. He said "Oh, the ARM won't reset for 5 years and won't go up too much". Wonderful, have a good day.
Anonymous in Arizona
on Tue, Feb 12 2008 8:00 AM
This article makes me sick!!! While there are plenty of people out there, (possibly the majority) that were greedy and made a bad situation worse, those of us, who not so voluntarily were sucked into getting an ARM by sheisters taking advantage of a no win situation, are looking at how we can survive this mess. I for one represent those that were legitimately taken advantage of. I had been lured into signing something I disagreed with but was at risk to be in worse shape if I didn't "take the deal" at the hands of an unfair legal system. Oh this broker was the slickest. I'm sure there are many people out there just like me. I'm also sure that if you were one of the hundreds of thousands in this situation, subjected to the "sarcasm" you so blatantly sling in light of this situation you'd be livid. We are losing our homes! Don't you get it? I have always been a responsible, very careful person when it comes to finances. I refinanced a home I've lived in for 10 years with my kids, not a first time buyer looking to get more. Unfortunately, I trusted a coworker's husband, who is a mortgage broker who helped many of my fellow employees eventually lose thier homes. Oh he talked of saving money with a refi product that he deliberately kept to himself until signing. I never had an ARM. When I asked what this was, his exact words were, "think of this as a bandaid that I will personally help you fix later, just focus on getting some cash out and skipping a month or two of payments". Sometimes people find themselves in a situation they can't control, so they place faith in others to help. These weren't naive people, they are well educated professionals. It doesn't surprise me that the most of the posts agreeing with your "article" are agents, realtors, and brokers. Even if I truly took this situation of losing my home as strictly my fault and chalk it up as lesson learned, how does this affect others as mentioned by so many of the posts that disagree with you? My house goes back to the bank. They lose money. They're forced to sell for less than it's worth, or it sits empty and decreases property values surrounding it. I've watched sign after sign go up in front of houses, just spreading like wildfire the past two years, throughout the city of Phoenix and not get removed. I've watched familes get stagnated in the home they have, looking to upgrade for more room. They either take a loss to make a gain or just wait it out. This is a more serious problem than thinking that to just "just let the chips fall where they may" will remedy.