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HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration

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HR 3915: A FRANK Discussion (11/8/2007)

As expected, the House Financial Services Committee passed HR3915 out of committee to the full House of Representatives with a favorable vote of 45 to 19.

The vote, which came early Tuesday evening will need approval of the full House and then would need to be passed by the Senate and signed by the president before becoming law.

HR3915, which is strongly opposed by some segments of the lending community, sets minimum standards for loans including a reasonable assumption that the borrower will be able to repay the loan. It also mandates a mechanism for licensing mortgage brokers who are not appropriately regulated by the states or by agencies such as the Comptroller of the Currency. The bill also proposes liabilities for those who securitize potentially risky loans.



While the bill seeks to correct some of the longstanding practices that its sponsors feel have contributed to the current subprime situation, there is nothing in HR 3915 to address either fiscally or legislatively the current fallout from those practices.

The bill, if it does pass both houses of Congress, will undoubtedly see many changes before it is sent to the president for his signature.

If you oppose HR3915 you can use the following template, contributed by one of our readers, as a starting point for a letter to your state representative.

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Jennifer wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
This is ridiculous! This will hurt mortgage brokers and consumers! They don't have money upfront to bring to the table, so why do we have to charge more upfront to hurt the consumer? We are in business to SAVE people money not hurt them!
Sheldon Schreiber wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
it is important to note some parts of the bill are good. It is doing away with YSP that will harm both consumers and borrowers alike.
Rick wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
WOW...that seems a bit crazy. I'm sure we'll see some changes to the bill before it takes full effect. Hmmm, looks like I might want to head for a bank that doesn't even have to disclose their SRP. This could become the beginning of the end for Mortgage Brokers.
Maria wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
This bill will hurt all mortgages,consumers and real estates business! I think the goverment should investigation all licensee who is involve in the mtg. and real estate business to make sure they are legal in the country and have strong business education to help the consumers. No, hurt them.! We are in big economic problem! this bill will hurt the economy, many mtg.companies will be out the business and this problem will be continue and worse.
Marcos wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
This is Crap,This going to affect the industry even more!!!!!
SS wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
that's what my mortgage company did - save me money by getting over 6K in kickbacks at the closing table, manipulating my interest rate AND not allowing me to view the closing documents prior to closing. yep, they sure saved me money. If the mortgage companies, builder's mortgage companies, title companies, brokers, realtors, appraisers, et al (and not 100% of these entities) weren't so darn greedy, this bill probably wouldn't have to come to fruition. paybacks are hell they say.
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
This bill is actually going to protect the borrowers in the long run and provide a more stable environment in an already chaotic atmosphere. There are currently 14 states out there that do not require a mortgage originator to be licensed. This is a scary fact considering that predatory lending and inadequate education to the borrower is the reason that the market is in it's current state. By regulating the lenders and holding them accountable, the market will be able to correct itself.
Jim wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Doing away with ysp will drive more borrowers to direct lenders who can still offer options to cover closing costs if they are looking for a "no cost" loan or help paying some of their closing costs fees without having to pay out of pocket. This will make it a lot easier to compare rates and take away one of the options brokers had to line their pockets with money they often should never have received. Money the borrower was entitled to get for taking on a higher rate.
Joe Public wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
YEH!!! HR9315!!! Not only will the American Dream be possible, it'll be honorable again
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
What about this? What other industry is as fully disclosed as mortgage brokers are already? When I go to the store to purchase a new pair of shoes, mirror, garage door, automobile, etc do I ever see a full disclosure of everything everyone is getting paid? No! I say we should be able to find out the profit margins on everything, including gasoline - on a daily basis and negotiate from the profit margin! Fix the real problem, fix the credit bureau reporting - try to get anything removed!
Juan wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Pay attention the Lender Implode...some are just walking away from Wholesale lending altogether, others have made it too damn difficult, like WAMU & Vertice. Banks want "Wholesale Lendng" GONE! BOA just quit doing it, over for them! Big Banks can get the government to see it their way & create favorable regulations to push Wholesalers out.
Juan wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Notwithstanding the fact that if you go to a bank & you don't fit the mold or in the little square box, you will just be told NO thanks & encouraged to open another account, refer your friends & family & be sent on your way dazed & confused as to why no loan for me.
Shelby wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
If there is less competition in the Marketplace there will be higher rates/fees...Supply and Demand....Banks charge as much as Good Brokers do but do not have to disclose, Brokers Have to disclose YSP as it stands right now. Big business should not squash the little guys...that is anti-american
Shelby wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
...Banks had control back in the early 80's and noone got homes, you know the saying on Bank Hours.....put the control back in the banks and the housing industry will really tank, no loans done, no homes sold, builders, title companies, etc will feel the effects and more foreclosures and ramifications to the economy will happen. I agree on the national registry but in what industry do we tell people we must sell something at the wholesale price...if Brokers cannot make any money on the
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
In any industry, when you eliminate the competition prices go up. Brokers have originated more than 50% of mortgages for years. Eliminating YSP eliminates the way many of them are paid, effectively eliminating the competition. This will result in increased rates for the consumers. When a bank originates loans in house they do not pay out YSP - but the profit is there - it does NOT go to the consumer - it is just more profitable for the bank. Consumers are going to learn the hard way.
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Less competetors will mean higher rates and profit margins for the banks. The consumer will loose in the end. Is our government really this stupid? I guess we will all work for banks. If Walmart can get their bank going in the US. (like in Mexico), we can all work for Walmart!!!!
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Pretty much decision our government makes these days does is not for the people of the U.S. They are only in it for their benefit. Funny that they try to sneak this bill by us by publicizing it 10/22 and voting on it 11/7 so that the public doesn't have time to petition and react. I can see what they are trying to do, and I'm a retail mortgage loan officer. This will not be good for AMERICA if congress votes out brokers. They need to reform it so that the industry is not monopolized.
J.T. wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
I speak for many in the mortgage service vendor industry by ENDORSING this bill. This is a well defined instrument for rectifying many of the problems created by scrupulous Mortgage Originators and although there are those that had the borrower's best interest in mind, there were others that steered away from what TRUTH IN LENDING is all about. I would like to endorse a template in favor of the bill to President George W. Bush, U.S. Jon Kyl, U.S. Senator John McCain, U.S. Rep. Harry E Mitchell.
boundless loans wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
The problem lies in, Originators and mostly AE's required quota's by the brokers and lenders. Lenders glamourizing their deceitful products. Originators followed the lead of the Lender AE. Not having licensing requirements. There are a few who wrecked it for the many. They did unscrupulous things way beyond huge ysp and the wrong loan syndrome. Greedy borrowers who have a instant gratification mentality and a sense of entitlement. Top this all off with paper ratings being way off.
SR wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
What is so incredible is how everyone feels it is the brokers are the only ones who did wrong, yet it was the lenders who offered the programs. Yes, brokers made money & yes the homeowners got what they wanted. But to think that people are better off with banks and credit unions, who have their own rules and only lend to a small portion of the population is incredible. There is a reason why the banks have sister companies who do their subprime loans. Don't tell me the banks aren't greedy.
Antoinette wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
A broker who thinks that they are the only lending institution that can offer a borrower a no cost loan is fooling himself. Easily done as they are fools to begin with. Ruining peoples lives to line their pockets should earn them jail time. HR3915 is supported by this Mortgage Lender with 20 years experience. Mortgage lending is a service industry. Treat it as such. Licensing and federal audits keep lenders and appraisers in check, why not brokers too.
Robert wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Brokers already have to disclose how much money they are making from the loan. Banks don't even have to do this ! The system is already unfair to brokers, and this bill will make it even more unfair. Imagine you own a store and you must disclose to the customer what is your profit on the product. That is what brokers currently have to do. Now you are trying to tell brokers how much they can charge? Is this the USA or Communist Russia ?
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
This will not hurt the borrowers, because if they cannot afford to pay for any extraneous fees when purchasing their home, then they shouldn't be purchasing the home in the first place. That would be what is considered living outside of their means, and that borrower would more than likely move into a foreclosure/delinquent status than anything. The only people that this affects is the originator/lender.
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
This is ensuring that they are held accountable for their actions. To the point that this is limiting borrowers to strictly larger financial institutions is a positive effect. If you examine the larger financial institutions that are out there right now and thriving, they are the institutions that are backed by other financial organizations such as banks, insurance co's, etc.
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
I don't know about you, but I would much rather have a loan from a company that has been through several of these market trends and that has survived for over 150 years (Such as Wells Fargo). Besides, the loan will probably be sold to the larger financial institution anyway, and the borrower will make their payments to them in the long run.
DMGLoan Master wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Once again = Congress has seen fit to puts its nose in places it does not belong = you would think that Washington would for once learn to protect the consumer, instead of listening to "BIG BUSINESS" and when Big Business faults, lets go after the small guy and squeeze him dry and make him pay for out stupid mistakes. What a bunch of jokers we have leading this country.... It's no wonder voters are disgusted in the system.
RICK wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Soooo, do we know when the House will be voting on this bill? Does anyone know?
Unemployed Underwriter wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Just like wall street, all were greedy for the day and superseded what the future would bring which we all know ended up to be foreclosures. Since, I looked at these types of loans for years from all over the country, I knew this was eventually coming to a halt.
Anonymous broker wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Brokers have no power on what programs banks create. Brokers give choices to borrowers, shop banks for best rates, disclose YSP & give options with no YSP at the same time, & borrowers choose. Brokers never had any power. This is fingerpointing. Banks decide what fees & costs are paid, brokers only offer lower rates (wholesale) than you'd get if you walk into a bank (retail) & charge the same banks do, but banks work them into rates directly so there is no disclosure necessary. Don't be fooled
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
What about holding the consumer responsible for their actions! I have people that purchase vehicles with monthly payments of $780, that are on SSI and now they can't make their house payments so they come to me and beg them to get them out of the mess. When I tell them to sell their vehicles they walk out! By the way the banks still DO GET PAID, they get paid SRP and it does not have to be disclosed on the HUD. I would go to a broker any day and know exactly what I am being charged.
Shelby wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
I think Auto dealers/Grocery People and HEY what about Realtors making 6% on every deal...come on ya'll the major blame goes to the consumer who was disclosed/redisclosed/disclosed at the table..Personal Accountability..your right there are some who took advantage of course but you cannot stereotype the whole industry I know we are all more educated than that
Juan wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
We do good deals, we make deals work, without us VERY FEW would get what THEY want & asked us for in the first place - we structured the deals for the Buyers, advised the negotiations for the Realtors, tell them to ask for 6% in paid costs from Sellers - talk about biting the hand that fed them they expect us to get it done for them, regardless of crappy credit, judgments, high DTI and NO MONEY down or otherwise!! They don't ask "Is it good for me" or "right" we didn't make contract!
Juan wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Not to mention, the larger the loan the harder the process tends to be, if it were one size fits all & we did the same work for a $400k loan as a $40k loan, then yes, we are guilty of being greedy but you can believe me that even with especially good credit the lenders are reverse discriminating in a sense against borrowers of high loan amounts, simply because they are NOT My Community & FNMA Neighbors low & moderate income type eligible borrowers etc., think about that!!
Anonymous wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:00 AM
Eliminating YSP will eliminate brokers altogether, and its a guaranteed way to monopolize the industry, which in the end will HURT all of us even more. Just watch. Oh yeah, why don't we eliminate real estate commissions while we're at it. They were greedy too right, so how about capping commissions at .25% per transaction? Let's see, the mortgage broker making .5% YSP on a deal gets his small portion cut, and the agents still take 6%. WAKE UP PEOPLE, while there's time to do so...
Anonymous Appraiser wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Thu, Nov 8 2007 8:00 AM
It's about time they they did something here but I don't think this is really the problem (could be contributing). I think that the mortgage brokers have had too much control over pressuring appraisers to HIT the number because they don't have a stake in the loan if it goes bad. The entire industry is a mess but this time they can't put the full blame on the appraiser. More lender/broker regulation this time.
Jack wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Thu, Nov 8 2007 8:00 AM
We all have to agree that the Lenders created the programs that the brokers offered to the consumer and further it was wall street that created a market for the programs, otherwise they would not have existed. The broker took it a step further by padding, hiding& inventing fees so that the cost to the bwr was absurd but often overlooked, alot of brokers deserve the title "scumbag". Face it, they'd charge bwrs as much as they could get away with. What we need are informed bwrs and regulated fees.
anonymous mortgage broker wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Thu, Nov 8 2007 8:00 AM
This is hypocritical. Lenders get the YSP but NOT Brokers??!! eliminate ysp's and you reduce competition. reduced competition means more costs to borrower. lenders will make a killing now. brokers originate over 60% of loans. this economy will take a hit! We market to promote homeownership and refinancing to save money. lenders are weak at this. consumers will PAY BIG TIME so will the economy. Where is free capitalism???!!!!! i might as well go live in France or China for that matter!!
George wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Thu, Nov 8 2007 8:00 AM
When I worked for a bank I closed a sub-prime loan for a friend, I was required to charge 2 pts SRP on a $400,000, had I been a broker like I am now, that loan would have gotten done for no more than 1 point YSP. My wonderful employer paid me $2000 out of the $8,000 that was collected. My point is, banning YSP and driving the brokers out of business will not help the consumer and money will still be earned under the name SRP which is exactly the same as YSP.
Appraiser are a joke wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House For Consideration
on Thu, Nov 8 2007 8:00 AM
Appraisers kiss the butts of those same people when it comes to getting business. We all had a hand in this, no one was complaining when business was coming in hand over fist. Real Estate agents pushed the listing prices and created comparables for appraisers. Mortgage professionals in turn had to find homes for these loans with ridiculous price tags which were backed up by scumbag appraisers that agreed with the values. Step up and take responsibility for your part. Scumbag
Dumb Appraisers wrote RE:HR9315 Passes To Full House F