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Latest Post: Sat, Nov 7 2009 11:27 AM by Stuart Landry - mortgage rates and market data
  • Thu, Oct 29 2009 10:26 AM
    new tax credit

    Does anyone know if the $6500 tax credit for current owners has an anticipated start date?  Ironically, I have a client set to close tomorrow on a new home, already own one.  He is thinking of holding off until Dec 1 to settle now....ARRRRRGH because he thinks this is when the new policy starts.  The only literature I see is that contracts would have to be signed prior to 4/30.  I know this hasnt passed yet but any thoughts are GREATLY  appreciated.

  • Thu, Oct 29 2009 2:04 PM

    This just came off of RIS Media

    RISMEDIA, October 29, 2009—(MCT/The Wall Street Journal)-The Senate has reached a compromise on extending and expanding the $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers, a boost the housing industry believes will help it pull out of its two-year-old downturn.

    While its passage remains uncertain, the agreement would extend the existing credit for first-time homebuyers, worth up to $8,000, while offering a new credit of up to $6,500 for some existing homeowners, Senate aides said. The reduced credit would be available to all homebuyers who have been in their current residence for a consecutive five-year period in the past eight years. Lawmakers in Washington also raised the qualifying income limits to $125,000 for single taxpayers and $250,000 for joint taxpayers, from the current $75,000 and $150,000, housing-industry sources said. Under the Senate compromise, buyers must have sales agreements in hand by April 30, but they will have until June 30 to go to settlement, said the sources. The measure still faces votes in the full Senate and the House.

    Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan are in full support of the Senate’s proposal to both extend and expand the first-time homebuyer tax credit and called on Congress to approve key housing measures that include the tax credit. "We welcome efforts taken by Congress to extend the First-Time Homebuyer Tax Credit for a limited period. This credit has brought new families into the housing market and contributed to three consecutive months of rising home prices nationwide," said Secretaries Geithner and Donovan. "In extending the credit, we urge Congress to include strict measures to combat tax fraud and protect responsible homeowners.”

    The current tax credit did little for the new-home market in September, the Commerce Department recently reported—news that took many industry analysts by surprise. Sales fell 3.6% from August and 7.8% from September 2008. Industry observers had expected a fifth consecutive monthly increase in new-home sales, believing that the tax incentive for qualified first-time buyers—credited with 357,000 sales of previously owned homes so far this year—would do the trick. Instead, sales of typically more expensive newly built houses slipped. "The decline in new-home sales seems to us to be more a function of the attractive pricing available on resales in the current environment than a reflection of weakening demand," said Michael Feder, president of Radar Logic in New York, which tracks the market.

    "Since hitting rock bottom in March, demand is up 20 percent," said Joel L. Naroff of Naroff Economic Advisers in Holland, Pa. For Naroff, the robust rise in existing-home purchases—9.2% year over year in September—indicated that the housing market was not faltering. "Maybe the issue is supply, which fell to its lowest level in 27 years," he said. "Builders, at least those left standing, have been making sure they don't have any houses sitting around, and they have been very successful in controlling inventories."

    IHS Global Insight economist Patrick Newport echoed that, noting new-home inventories "sank for the 29th straight month to their lowest level since November 1982." Naroff maintained housing has recovered enough to stand without the tax credit, but Newport said that if the credit were not extended and expanded, housing demand would take a hit, and home sales would drop.

    The new provisions are aimed at broadening availability of the credit beyond first-time buyers and giving the weakened real estate market a bigger boost while preventing real estate investors from benefitting. While Senate lawmakers appear to have reached a deal on the substance of the tax credit, they are still at odds over how it would be brought to the Senate floor.

    (c) 2009, The Philadelphia Inquirer.
    Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune Information Services.

  • Thu, Nov 5 2009 1:42 PM

    I'm also looking for some insight!!  Here's a snip from the legislation.  I'm just signing a contract today for a purchase that is planned to complete on or around December 10th.  I'm hoping that the CLOSING date I have will make me eligible w.r.t. the Extension noted in j (2).

    Any insight would be helpful!

      (j) Effective Dates-

     

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        (1) IN GENERAL- The amendments made by subsections (b), (c), (d), and (g) shall apply to residences purchased after the date of the enactment of this Act.

     

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        (2) EXTENSIONS- The amendments made by subsections (a), (f), and (i) shall apply to residences purchased after November 30, 2009.

     

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        (3) WAIVER OF RECAPTURE- The amendment made by subsection (e) shall apply to dispositions and cessations after December 31, 2008.

     

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        (4) MATHEMATICAL ERROR AUTHORITY- The amendments made by subsection (h) shall apply to returns for taxable years ending on or after April 9, 2008.

     

  • Fri, Nov 6 2009 12:26 PM

    Having the same issue myself with sellers on several deals.  Reading the Legislation, the section pertaining to Repeat Home Buyers is section (b).  The Effective Dates section refers to sections (b), (c), (d), and (g) as effective for purchases made "after the date of the enactment of this Act".  This wording would lead me to believe that any closing that takes place after the President signs the Bill would be eligible under these terms, and would not have to wait until Dec. 1st to qualify. 

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    Fri, Nov 6 2009 5:13 PM

    I think that Michael is correct.  I just picked the following up off the web.

    The following details apply to the homebuyer tax credit expansion:

    Who is Eligible

    -First-time homebuyers, who are defined by the law as buyers who have not owned a principal residence during the three-year period prior to the purchase, may be eligible for up to an $8,000 tax credit.
    -Existing homeowners who have been residing in their principal residence for five consecutive years out of the last eight and are purchasing a home to be their principal residence (“repeat buyer”), may be eligible for up to a $6,500 tax credit.
    -All U.S. citizens who file taxes are eligible to participate in the program.

    Income Limits
    Homebuyers who file as single or head-of-household taxpayers can claim the full credit ($8,000 for first-time buyers and $6,500 for repeat buyers) if their modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is less than $125,000.
    -For married couples filing a joint return, the combined income limit is $225,000.
    -Single or head-of-household taxpayers who earn between $125,000 and $145,000, and married couples who earn between $225,000 and $245,000 are eligible to receive a partial credit.
    -The credit is not available for single taxpayers whose MAGI is greater than $145,000 and married couples with a MAGI that exceeds $245,000.

    Effective Dates
    -The eligibility period for the tax credit is for homes purchased after Nov. 6, 2009, and before May 1, 2010. However, home purchases subject to a binding sales contract signed by April 30, 2010, will qualify for the tax credit provided closing occurs prior to July 1, 2010.

    Types of Homes that Qualify
    -All homes with a purchase price of less than $800,000 qualify, including newly-constructed or resale, and single-family detached, townhomes or condominiums, provided that the home will be used as their principal residence. Vacation home and rental property purchases do NOT qualify.

    Tax Credit is Refundable
    -A refundable credit means that if the amount of income taxes you owe is less than the credit amount you qualify for, the government will send you a check for the difference.
    -For example:
    -A first-time buyer who qualifies for the full $8,000 credit who owes $5,000 in federal income taxes would pay nothing to the IRS and receive a $3,000 payment from the government. If you are due to receive a $1,000 refund, you would receive $9,000 ($1,000 plus the $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit).
    -A repeat buyer who owes $5,000 would pay nothing to the IRS and receive $1,500 back from the government. If you are due to get a $1,000 refund, you would get $7,500 ($1,000 plus the $6,500 repeat buyer tax credit).
    -All qualified homebuyers can take the tax credit on their 2009 or 2010 income tax return.

    Payback Provisions
    The tax credit is a true credit. It does not have to be repaid unless the home owner sells or stops using the home as their principal residence within three years after the purchase.

    The www.federalhousingtaxcredit.com site is being updated. Check the site next week for more detailed information on the new tax credit.

  • Fri, Nov 6 2009 8:08 PM

    Thanks Gents,

     

    So it looks like even though I'm under CONTRACT as of yesterday, the 5th of November, I am eligible because the sale will be completed now after the November 6th date.

  • Fri, Nov 6 2009 8:17 PM

    It looks that way to me since Obama signed the bill today.

  • Sat, Nov 7 2009 11:27 AM

    Thank you Bryan for being a true and good professional in this business.  Your insight was helpful to myself and my clients.  God bless you and best of luck!!!!

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