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Latest Post: Mon, Sep 21 2009 2:54 PM by Paul Proffitt
  • Mon, Sep 14 2009 8:43 PM
    Lenders not using Automated Underwriting Systems

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    It's getting harder and harder to pre qualify people these days.  I prequalified someone FHA for a purchase.  I ran them through Desktop Underwriter and got an approve eligible.  My customer had a 46.8% front end DTI and a 53% back end.

    I called my A.E. He said it was fine.... I get a full package, submit, and wait.  Well, days before the drop dead date, they come back and say they have guidelines different than automated approvals.  I looked all over the website, no guidelines... So, the guidelines to qualify a customer are on an underwriters desk? 

    I now have to flip this loan, but it would have been nice to know they over underwrite files.  I'm seeing more and more lenders doing this... The problem!  They are all different guidelines!  One lender needs a 50% back end, others need 48% or 46%. 

    How can we qualify borrowers when the A.Es just want you to submit, the underwriters have different guidelines than we have access too, this is getting ridiculous!

     

  • Mon, Sep 14 2009 8:48 PM

    I'm not sure what all that stuff above my post is.....

  • Mon, Sep 14 2009 8:49 PM

    It's getting harder and harder to pre qualify people these days.  I prequalified someone FHA for a purchase.  I ran them through Desktop Underwriter and got an approve eligible.  My customer had a 46.8% front end DTI and a 53% back end.

    I called my A.E. He said it was fine.... I get a full package, submit, and wait.  Well, days before the drop dead date, they come back and say they have guidelines different than automated approvals.  I looked all over the website, no guidelines... So, the guidelines to qualify a customer are on an underwriters desk? 

    I now have to flip this loan, but it would have been nice to know they over underwrite files.  I'm seeing more and more lenders doing this... The problem!  They are all different guidelines!  One lender needs a 50% back end, others need 48% or 46%. 

    How can we qualify borrowers when the A.Es just want you to submit, the underwriters have different guidelines than we have access too, this is getting ridiculous!

  • Fri, Sep 18 2009 6:35 PM

    I understand your frustration and I have had experiences where the guidelines have changed while in underwriting.   The best advise I can provide is find a mortgage investor/lender that does not require any overlays.  Normally FHA or conventional mortgage investors that offer the best mortgage rates will  have additional requirements, other then the automated findings for Desktop Underwriter. There are still lenders that will fund your loan based on the automated findings without any other documents required.  Best of luck. 

     

     

    Voyage Home Loans 

     

    Mike Kim

  • Mon, Sep 21 2009 2:54 PM

    Check out the DU Certs - There is a new disclosure on them

    VERIFICATION MESSAGES/APPROVAL CONDITIONS

    6 This loan is also subject to all other lender specified conditions and must comply with all applicable federal, state, and local laws and regulations.
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