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Latest Post: Fri, Jan 30 2009 1:39 PM by Clem Borkowski
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    Thu, Jan 29 2009 5:21 PM
    Effect of short sale on credit scores

    I am a CPA, former tax accountant with KPMG and have a credit repair company based in Dallas. Many of my clients are real estate investors throughout the US. For the last year there has been substantial interest in how short sales affect a credit score. I have heard so many incorrect explanations that I felt compelled to set the record straight.
     
    Bottom line - if you complete a short sale and don't have any late payments on your mortgage, then your score will not be affected. However, there is usually a notation on your report that says "settled for less than full amount". A simple statement like this will not lower your score, but it will catch the eye of a potential lender and may negatively impact their approval process.
     
    In most short sale cases there are usually late payments on the mortgage that lead up to the short sale. Any late payment on a mortgage will have a substantially negative impact on the credit scores. The exact decrease in score can not be accurately predicted since it will depend entirely on the unique credit profile of the borrower. 
     
    In addition, many lenders will require the borrower to have suffered late payments before they will even consider approving a short sale. 
     
    One strategy for the borrower is to ask the lender, as a condition of the short sale, to report the loan as "settled in full". You have about a 10% chance of them agreeing to this, but it is worth asking. You may even be able to get the lender to remove the late pays, but this is even a bigger long shot.
     
    Many people have been contacted by credit repair firms or seen comments on the internet that state they can remove the short sale from the credit report. This is not entirely true. Legal credit repair companies follow the provisions of the Fair Credit Reporting Act in order to get derogatory items removed from a consumer's credit reports. A statement such as "settled for less than full amount" is not considered a derogatory item under the credit laws and therefore, the credit laws do not apply. The late payments are, of course, considered derogatory.
     
    Late payments have the potential for being removed, but if they are relatively recent (last 12 months) it will be very difficult.
     
    There are also issues surrounding deficiency judgments and forgiveness of debt, but that is for another posting if anyone would like to know.
     
    I hope this is helpful. If anyone else has questions concerning credit scores or repair please feel free to email or call me. Remember that I am an accountant not a salesman.
     
    You may contact me at ***-***-**** or email *****.*****@*****************.***. Good luck and take care!
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  • Thu, Jan 29 2009 10:50 PM

    Most of the investment community (banks, fannie & freddie) have released rules regarding short sales, deed-in-lieu & modifications. They are now being looked at with minimum time frames (2-4 years) before allowing another loan (under fannie/freddie).  Short Sales haven't be listed by name but the "less than satisfactory history" seems to encompass all issues. It's tough to know but underwriters are going to error on the side of caution and declining loans. I expect to see more detail on this issue going forward.

    I think now the assumption is that the payment history will show lates and be damage enough but with the increased number of cases where the lender doesn't report the late history the lender is going to wonder how they received approval of short sale without being late. At that point a verification of mortgage history or payment history could be requested and the cats out of the bag. So to speak.

    There is some news on www.efanniemae.comand also in Allregs (a part of efanniemae).

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  • Fri, Jan 30 2009 5:02 AM

    Thanks for the info.  Glad to see a fellow Texan on here.

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  • Fri, Jan 30 2009 6:58 AM

    Thanks for the info. 

    It is interesting thet even though there is a settlement for less than agreed, that it has no impact on the scoring system.

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  • Fri, Jan 30 2009 1:39 PM

    Here is an update I received today from one of our investors:

    1. Short Sales or Pre-Foreclosures, Short Pay-offs or Re-Structured Debt

    For borrowers who sold or refinanced (or are selling or refinancing) a property for less than the amount owed on the mortgage (as agreed to by the lender, investor, and mortgage insurer), a four year seasoning is required (two year with extenuating circumstances) for reestablishing credit following the sale or refinance of the property.

    This applys to FNMA loans.

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    clem@skihawk.net
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