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Latest Post: Fri, Dec 17 2010 8:58 AM by john murphy
  • Sun, Dec 12 2010 9:32 PM
    • Anonymous
    .float/rates are up

    Hello- I am a loan processor in NY. I was unable to lock in 2 loans. And the rates have shot up in the past week. 

     
  • Mon, Dec 13 2010 1:52 AM

    Did the client ask you to lock? 

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  • Mon, Dec 13 2010 9:19 AM
    • Anonymous

    yes

     
  • Mon, Dec 13 2010 11:46 AM

    Sorry to hear of your predicament.

    Are you a loan officer or processor? Or a LO that processes your own loans? Broker shop/lender/bank? A processor should not be responsible for locking loans IMO.

    I'm not sure where you are getting the $50K figure. That can't be correct, in terms of the buy-down to obtain the currrent rate. Please clarify. Typically, the LO is responsible for delivering the committed rate to the borrower, which could mean forfeiture of any commissions earned on the deal (and then some). As your workload is so heavy, that means you are originating many loans, which means lots of income to the house as well. usually, managers/owners will pick up after the LO forfiets all income. Thats what I do anyway. Good Luck.

  • Mon, Dec 13 2010 10:54 PM
    • Anonymous

     Rates have risen quite rapidly last week. I am a loan processor/officer, working for a broker.  Does anyone have any info, Thank you. 

     
  • Mon, Dec 13 2010 11:35 PM

    When are these loans supposed to close?  Many believe this run up in rates was overdone and we will see some kind of a correction next month.

     

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  • Tue, Dec 14 2010 8:40 AM

    radnar: Anyone who's been in this biz for over a decade has been in the same situation. it sounds like you we're betting rates would improve after your discovery, and did not want/could not "cut your losses". (I'm assuming here you were'nt playing the market, and simply "lost track " of these loans) Big mistake. Murphy's Law of Pricing is " "the velocity of market movement against an unhedged (unlocked) position will be in direct proportion to the consequences thereof....." Ok, so I made that up. But, here's what I would do:

    inform employer immediately. he/she can then contact investor for a possible concession. if your company is doing alot of "large loans" they are not FNMA and your private investor may have considerable leeway to offer a reprice based upon yuor company's history, delivery %, profitabliity, etc. it's not guaranteed by any means, but worth a shot. Might save you 25-50 bps if the relationship is very solid.

    you say these are large loans but you don't make much money. something isn't clicking here.

    regardless, the customer thinks they're locked, and you have to deliver if the loans are approved by the investor. perhaps the broker can split the diff with you, advanced from future commissions on other deals on a % basis. but, you're mistake, you're responsibility if the info provided is approximately correct.

    good luck

     

     

     

  • Wed, Dec 15 2010 12:06 AM
    • Anonymous

    Thanks for the info.

     
  • Wed, Dec 15 2010 8:58 AM

    You need to talk to your employer immediately. You are putting the business at risk by not informing him/her. Ultimately, it is their obligation as your employer, assuming you are a W-2 employee. The market will not save you in this, and no one will pay for this mistake except you and your employer. You say you are being proactive, but really you are frozen by fear and speculation, hoping the markets will improve and solve your problem. Re-read prior post, therein lies a path to resolving this situation.

    Good Luck

  • Wed, Dec 15 2010 12:16 PM

    Dude don't stress too much and ruin the holidays.  Hey, you made a mistake, we all do.  Your employer should know this.  I always live by the saying "tell the bad news as quickly as the good news".  It was a mistake, notify employer so he/she can notify borrowers and put together an action plan of where to go from there.  I suggest notifying them of the error made, apologize, monitor the market hoping rates drop to lock in (hopefully they drop because I also need them to) and get them closed as planned, better closed late than never.  Or send them to me andI'll take care of them, lol.

     

    Good luck, chill out and get it off your chest to sleep easy at night~

  • Fri, Dec 17 2010 1:01 AM
    • Anonymous

    Well there are two different responses for sure. I must say thank everyone for the replies and opinions. But please keep the replies coming. Best,  J

     
  • Fri, Dec 17 2010 8:58 AM

    last on this. Yes I have been in that situaiton, more than once, mostly with my own $$, but employers $$$ w/in past two years on hedging speculation.

    do not count on yuor borrowers "understanding " the mistake and gladly letting you/firm off the hook. In New York? fuggetaboutit.

    you mite be back to 50K loss after today. Betwn employer/investor/you should be able to clear up

    good luck

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