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Redfin Revisited: A Company To Watch

by Glenn Setzer on
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Redfin, the Seattle based and self-described "first Internet brokerage" turned one year old recently. It has been nearly that long since we took a look at it so we made a second visit.

We found, first of all, that Redfin has branched out in several directions. It has grown from primarily operating in King County, Washington to running offices, perhaps services is a better word for this primarily virtual company, in several of California's largest cities. Redfin is slated to open soon in Chicago, Boston, and Washington, D.C. so it is possible that the company will soon be in your area as well.

Redfin has also expanded its services. Since September it has offered a package to sellers that will provide pricing guidance (based on a data base - they sort of duck the issue of someone would actually inspect the house), publicize the property on-line, provide an MLS listing and lockbox, flyers, yard signs, and referrals to professionals who will stage or photograph the property. (Photography is generally part of a traditional listing broker's service.) Sellers are encouraged to run their own open houses based on a few paragraphs of on-line advice about "hosting." This package costs the seller $2,000 upfront, no refunds if the house doesn't sell although there is a 100 percent guarantee if the seller is not satisfied. Redfin variously estimates this is $13,000 or maybe $10,000 less than the typical listing commission. Once a house is under contract, Redfin handles the details leading to the closing. When selling to a buyer represented by a traditional agent the seller would be obligated to pay that side of the commission to the buyer agent.

On the other side of the table, Redfin still expects the listing agent to carry the load. Buyers that are represented by Redfin must make their own arrangements to view the house either by attending an open house or contacting the listing broker for a private tour. Redfin's theory is that the listing agent is being paid to sell the house and should do everything possible to do so. This is a good theory but must be resulting in a lot of hostility in Redfin Country when agents must neglect their own buyers in order to service Redfin's.

And, as we said a year ago, "What if that buyer, after viewing the house once and being a reasonable and sensible consumer, decides he must see it a second or even a third time. Again, he is expected to impose, and at this point it is an imposition, on that listing broker. Should there be no open house or the listing broker is "unavailable" then the buyer must find another agent willing to show the house. This agent, whether aware of the fact or not, is working without hope of remuneration" as Redfin's customer must sign a buyer agency agreement. "While real estate agents are used to being used, such institutional abuse is hardly likely to promote goodwill toward Redfin."

Well Redfin has made one significant change in this area. Its buyers can now sign up for a Redfin tour. The first tour - all the homes that can reasonably be seen in a three hour time block - is free. Subsequent tours are $250 per three hour time block. If this flies real estate agents may be willing to forgive Redfin for its other anti-industry transgressions. Many agents have argued for years that such "fee for service" programs would go a long way to ending the "home search as entertainment" phenomena that costs agents time and money and they would be quite happy to earn a guaranteed $83.33 per hour to chauffeur customers around.

Buyers can compose their own offer on-line and Redfin agents review and submit it to the seller or his agent. Redfin also handles negotiation, counter-offers and other benchmarks leading to closing. The Redfin buyer receives a rebate on two-thirds of the commission share that is typically paid to the agent presenting the successful offer.

So, to steal a phrase, how is all of this working for them? Apparently quite well. To commemorate its first birthday Redfin issued the results of a study into its services. The study, which does seem to be evenhanded to the point of devoting half a page to correcting an earlier, minor error in its favor, reports that Redfin sold 200 houses in its first year in Washington State. This number did not include sales in its infant California operation nor houses that were listed through its new seller services. The majority of the sales were in King County and the average buyer received a refund of 1.952 percent (or $9,660.28) of the sales price.

Redfin also maintains that it negotiates a better price for its buyers. Comparing its data to that of the Northwest Multiple Listing Service, Redfin claims that its buyers paid 99.589 percent of the listing price of the property while buyers utilizing all other brokerages paid 100.186 percent for a difference of .598 percent. For condominium purchases where differences can be more easily quantified the Redfin negotiated purchase price was 1.718 percent lower than with other brokerages. Combining the negotiating advantage with the commission refund gave Redfin buyers a 2.845 percent advantage over other buyers.

The company also surveyed its customers and reported a high satisfaction rate with 64 percent of respondents reporting that Redfin's customer service was better or much better than they had experienced with traditional agents and 95 percent reporting they would recommend Redfin to a friend.

According to the Redfin website 17 agents, pretty much equally divided between Washington and California have signed up as Redfin agents. The company guarantees that all agents are experienced and have closed a minimum of 25 real estate transactions.

While much of its business model sets our teeth on edge, this is obviously a company that has some interesting ideas and is growing fast. We will check back around its second birthday to see what else is new.


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Anonymous
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This article like so many others make Redfin out to be a hero with there discount model. In reality they aren't providing any value to there clients. I will sell your house for 4% percent if all I have to do is fill out the forms and look up your house value with Zillow.com.
Anonymous
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As a realtor for the last 10 years...with all the fees and etc. I pay to keep my license, redfin is going to be sued out of sight and will not come back, this is a tricky business.
Doris
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Excellent article - I look forward to Redfin coming to the Boston area.
Anonymous
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This is a tricky business, as a realtor for the last 10 years all I can say is 'good luck' because in RE lawsuits are lurking around every nook and cranny. Disclose, disclose, disclose and CYA!
Mary
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Redfin offers "no service" to either the buyer nor the real estate agent. They are apparently no accountable and seem to me to basically offer "nothing" at all. I would NEVER recommend them nor use them EVER.
cd
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Realtors fees are not fixed. I would shop around, there are always agents who will list for $500 and buyers agents who will bring a buyer for 2% in a mid priced home. Less for a more expensive home. Redfin is just another choice the consumer.
Anonymous
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I own a small real estate company. The business model may sound great but inlight of the litigous world real estate is I feel sorry for Redfins clients when they have to write out checks to lawyers.....buyer beware!
David
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Is Redfin legal? I swear there was a rule called "Tie-in arrangement" and giving out kick back is illegal.
Paul
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I am considering a condo that was built in late 2006. I've already done all the research of recent sales in the building and saw what everyone bought in at by going straight to the county website. For something so new, considering I've successfully done the research on the valuation what would a real estate agent be offering besides showing the property and filling out forms anyway? Why not get the 8K cost savings? I wouldn't buy a 30 year old property with Redfin... but this is nearly as new as it gets...
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I recently saw a property in Chase bank website listed for $315,000 in Los Angeles area but redfin quated it as $387,000, I tried to put an offer through redfin.com but they did not let me put the offer more than 15% less than their actual price. this really bad first they jacked the price of the propery by 30% and then they dont let customer to submit offer for less than the 15% of the actual rate.