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Mortgage Rates and the Fed - Get it Straight !

by Glenn Setzer on
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I can't decide what was more troublesome yesterday: the comically uninformed questions put to Big Ben regarding mortgage rates, or the comically inaccurate article printed by CNBC on the same subject. Whatever the case, the media is awash with analysts, experts, officials, and laypersons offering rather strong opinions on a subject about which they have such a painfully shallow understanding.

Today Bernanke testified before congress on the state of the economy. I'll leave it to the 1000 or more other articles to bring you up to speed on the salient points. I'm more concerned with something that no one has really talked about yet: the lack of understanding of our mortgage problems. My concern began to peak after overcoming my amazement at a question I heard today from Luis Gutierrez. CNBC has kindly saved me from needing to type the exchange, listen here.

This question would not be that troublesome at all if it came from a mortgage consumer in the general public (if you don't know why it's troublesome yet, that's OK, we will cover that in a moment). But it comes from a member of the House financial services committee, a member of the subcommittee on financial institutions/consumer credit, and the chair of the subcommittee on domestic and international monetary policy. This guy should know something about this topic! For all I know, he and the rest of his ilk are quite knowledgeable in the rest of their purview, but his question, in conjunction with previous communications from members of congress, illustrates an appalling lack of understanding about the very specific topic of the macroeconomic role of mortgage finance.

Simply put, mortgage rates are tied to Fed policy decisions about as much as they are tied to the price of pork bellies! OK, that's a slight exaggeration. But I've previously written on just how unconnected the two can be. We've seen some Fed rate cuts that have preceded decreasing mortgage rates, and other rate cuts that have preceded increasing mortgage rates. It's enough to confuse anyone! (sarcasm) Wait! Maybe Fed rate cuts don't have a direct bearing on mortgage rates! (sarcasm) Sure, Home Equity Lines of Credit are tied to Prime, but that's about it. Maybe there is more than just one thing that affects mortgage rates! (sarcasm)

Since I know you're burning with curiosity, I'll give you a short version of the answer Bernanke should have given. Here goes... Almost all mortgage rates are in direct relationship with the yields of Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS). MBS are basically bonds: when the price goes up, the yield goes down. Their yields vary directly with mortgage rates and they are responsive to macroeconomic forces in a similar way to other types of bonds. So since inflation decreases today's value of a dollar, and since bonds return a fixed income, inflation makes bonds less valuable. (do you see where I'm going with this yet?). When something is less valuable, less people want to buy it, so the price goes down to attract buyers. When the price goes down on a bond, the yield goes up. And we just said that MBS yields equal mortgage rates. Ipso facto, ergo, therefore, rising inflation is a stimulus for rising mortgage rates.

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Granted, this is not the whole story, but it is one of the most easily understandable reasons that mortgage rates have not fallen in concert with the Fed rates. Yes, money is cheaper for banks when rates are cut but BANKS DO NOT SET MORTGAGE RATES!!

Countrywide has to get together with Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, pour a couple billion dollars of 30 year fixed mortgages into a cauldron, mix well with eye of newt and leg of toad, go down to the flea market, and auction off very small cups of this witch's brew (individual Mortgage Backed Securities) to investors. It's these investors: Saudi oil barons, overseas governments, institutional investors, and billionaire Chinese businessmen, who really hold the note on your mortgage. It's their appetites and goals that truly determine mortgage rates. Luis Guitierrez should know that. And you should too.

The fun continued when I read CNBC's article. I don't even have the space in this article to go line by line on this one, but suffice it to say that, should our bovine friends (especially bulls) not feel up to the task, the assertions herein could serve as equivalent fertilizer.

Mortgage rates high? Historically we're quite low! Perhaps it is referencing the fact that mortgage rates haven't fallen as much as they "should have" considering the yield on the 10 year treasury, which even mortgage brokers believe (incorrectly) is a good indicator of interest rate direction.

Yes, the spreads between mortgage rates and treasury rates are wider than they've been in the past. Maybe that has something to do with the perception of quality decreasing in the wake of a massive mortgage crisis! (understatement) Mortgage yields have always been higher than treasury yields in order to compensate investors for the extra risk.

So don't be surprised when the Fed cuts rates and mortgages hold steady. As long as inflation is a concern and the quality of MBS as an investment is in question, there will not be a direct relationship. My Scoff-O-Meter was tripped all the more abruptly as yesterday was a fantastic day for mortgage rates, a very inopportune day to write such an article.

In conclusion, even if it's not feasible for the average consumer to digest and understand the complex macroeconomic forces that govern mortgage rates, the more people in congress and the news media that understand, the better equipped the general population will be to mitigate our freefall towards and stimulate our recovery from what will be one of the lowest points in our economic history.


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Steven
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Dear Matthew, Your lack of understanding of macroeconomics and (mortgage) interest rates is only matched by the size of your big mouth. MBS (bonds) are bought and sold based on thier risk plus the prevailing Fed (risk free) rates and are not tied tightly to the interest rate of the underlying security. MBS-bonds that are low quality-risky are sold at huge discount regardless of anything else. The investors buy these at a premium or discount, of the stated interest rate based on thier perceived risks. The problem with mortgage interest rates is first off supply and demand. The decrease in the number of lenders and the decrease in the amount of money available to be put in to the mortgage market has allowed the price, or interest rate, to remain high, relative to the past 5 years. Or you can say the spread between mortgage rates and the fed rate is high, relative to the past 5 years. So, the first problem is money supply. This the credit crunch. Banks are so busy taking what ever cash they get and setting the cash a side to cover sub-prime losses that they do not have money to lend out. A lot of banks have no choice, or risk being siezed and liquidated by the FDIC. The second problem is risk. This is emphasized by the fact that banks do make their own mortgage interest rates. Homes are the underlying collateral for the mortgage loans, for banks, and home values are decreasing. This requires a greater interest rate (risk) premium. If your collateral is decreasing in value and you do not know where the bottom of the collateral's value is, you have a risky security no matter what it is. This is why the aformentioned spread is historically high. Deflating home values are not typical to the mortgage market. That is the demand problem. No one is looking to buy collatreal that is decreasing in value. The continued lack of buying increases the devaluation of the collateral making mortgage lending look riskier and riskier the further out in time you forecast. Your over analysis ignored the fundamentals which you can never do. That is, that mortgage money supply is tighter than ever, bar maybe the great depression, and that mortgage collateral (homes) is more risky than ever before, again probably since the great depression. Mortgage interest rates are going to remain high (sticky) as long as these 2 basic fundamental market problems exist.
Steve
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And I thought the President waived his magic wand and set mortgage interest rates! He's in charge of the economy, right? ,>
Matthew Graham
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Dear Steve, Thank you for illustrating my point with such uncanny irony. Just like the news media or a legislator, you have delivered a somewhat caustic opinion on a subject about which your appear to have more to learn (as do we all!). I hope we can have a discourse at some point where any of our legitimate shortcomings of knowledge (and I'll freely admit mine) are addressed and corrected by the other. We should end up, both of us, better off for the experience (although my voice might be a bit hoarse and your ears a bit tired). You know where to find me!
Larry
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Matthew, while Steven has some good points, you are essentially correct. When the Fed lowers the Prime Rate we should expect to see the stock market rally and money be pulled out of bonds and spent on stocks. I also was amazed at the question when I saw it yesterday AM. What was the most unsettling was that an informed elected official, who has control over our careers, was unaware that there was not a direct correlation between the Prime rate and long term mortgage rates. If there is this little understanding of the how mortgage rates are derived, how can there truly be understanding of the proper use of Yield Spread or Stated Income? Or even of how a Rate Sheet is composed...
davos
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Hello Matthew: I could not agree with you more! I'm not going to split hairs about MBS's. Your point is that the short term really has little impact on the long term. Further: The "Fed" isn't federal in any way shape or form, it has NO governmental/Congressional oversight. Each time it prints money our dollar is devalued. According to our Constitution the dollar was to be of silver and or gold - Nixon declared bankruptcy and took our dollar off the gold standard. It appears to me that the current and past Fed chairman seem hell bent on tanking the dollar. I personally feel that soon the dollar won't be accepted for gold, oil and other commodities. When these greenbacks come back home to roost I think we will see 1930 all over again. As far as the FDIC goes, last I heard it can insure/cover the loss of one or two good sized bank failures. Personally I think that our banking system is going to fail and if the Fed bails them out then our dollar will fail. Either way I see a bleak Enronish picture. I also find it pathetic that all we hear from W is that we have a strong dollar policy. If anyone thinks 1.51 is strong then I'd hate to see what they think weak is! Way to go Fed, the rest of the banks, Congress!
Charlie
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Matthew gave the correct basic fundamental reason for the rise in mortgage rates. It is shocking how few financial journalists and, Yikes, members of the House Financial Svcs Committee, and, Yikes, even worse, Big Ben himself don't understand this basic fact. Or maybe Benny didn't want to clue the Distinguished Gentlemen in that the reductions in Fed Funds rate is responsible for the inflation eroding the MBS.
Darren
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I agree but why do banks and lending institutions use Fed rate cuts in their advertising intentionally misleading the public into believing that it is relevant while simultaneously raising interest rates during an advertised Fed rate cut?
JTG
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I'm a novice to this so forgive my lack of knowledge of this subject. Does this mean that when the Feds meet mid March the mortgage interest rates may not change or can even rise due to the MBS? I am refinancing a loan and they want me to lock in at 6%. I wanted to wait to see what the Feds do. Does that make sense?
laughing out loud
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Matthew, once again another fine post. Many of us here may or may not understand the dynamics of how rates fluctuate based on the markets, but I think you clearly explained it in a simplistic manner. While Steven does point out some of the additional underlying factors, his post does not hammer home the basic principles. Apparently his mouth mouth IS not as big as yours.
joe
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Ok, Ok, Ok, I get it, you get it, we get it, but does the Fed get it? Apparently not. I commend all of you for your expertise. Just reading all this made my head hurt! All of you seem like many others, they know what the problem is and can point it out. BUT HOW DO WE FIX IT????????
Guillaume
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So, home value is going down... because people don't buy, because of hight interest rates. Those who own a house can't pay it because of even higher rates they signed for at the time, so it is more homes for sale on the market (foreclosures). The fed is lowering its rate so money is cheaper for consumers, but the intermediary (banks) doesn't play the game and instead make more profits to cover their own past mistakes of policy. They drain the whole system. Why buying a house is risky now? I think the prices of houses can only go up, maybe not in the short term but it is garanteed on the long term, history has always proved it. So it is the right time to buy, not risky. Banks are so used to making huge profits that they don't want to take any risk so they don't invest in the futur. Instead of lying to people pretending their rates are linked to the fed's rate and actually not showing it (how can you trust them after that?) banks should think about the important role they have in boosting economy and not always make profit on the back of the people. When you squeeze a lemon, after a while there is nothing to squeeze anymore, they are just ruining the system for their own profit. Sure my analysis is not very economic but I hope to think it is logical...
marc
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This is a good article, however it along with many articles by all the other reporter pretending to be economists fails to discuss what will result in a reduction in mortgage rates - 1) A sales price and inventory bottom 2) If the Fed funds rate and US Government Treasury bond yields continue on a downward path they will continue to lower returns on almost all types of investment to the point where the investments don't provide a real return at all - suddenly mortgage securities will become attractive at a couple percent over other investments - the safety of government bonds will be outweighed by the fact that its impossible to earn a real return without risk - properly documented loans with 10-20% loan to value are a great investment.
Dave
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Instead of being sarcastic and condescending, why not simply provide some information? One has to read through numerous paragraphs of self-aggrandizing nonsense in order to get to the point. Get over yourself, dude!f